Randy, That is exactly it. What is the difference between a Civic and a MBZ wagon? I would almost prefer the wagon in a rear end collision. With the wagon maybe someone will be in the 3rd row if you have kids. With the Civic the rear will be used a lot more placing kids at higher risk more often. Heck, maybe the rear facing seat is safer than a front facing 3rd row. Just maybe, the rearmost passengers will see the accident coming and either move or scream real loud so the driver can move out of harms way. I also own a one ton Ford conversion van. I will sit in the rear of that and take a collision over almost any modern car. The rear sits high and the bumper and frame in the van are very strong. Gonna take one hell of a hit to get to the passengers with anything but a semi or lifted 4x4.
Mike On Aug 21, 2012 11:28 AM, "Randy Bennell" <rbenn...@bennell.ca> wrote: > The problem with that statement is that one can be as careful as possible > and get run into by someone who is paying little or no attention or who is > but takes big chances on the road/ > > I suppose wagons with 3rd row seats are more dangerous for passengers in > those seats but the ones that make me nervous are the little hatchbacks > like Honda Civic etc. My younger son's girlfriend drives a nice little red > Civic 2 door hatchback. > Cute little car and mostly she is alone but I look at the back seat and > think I don't want to be in there if it gets hit from behind, especially if > the vehicle that hits it is a truck. > > Randy > > On 21/08/2012 7:55 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: > >> Just the typical US protect everyone from themselves attitude. We all >> should drive huge and heavy vehicles so when we are unlucky or just stupid >> we can live on. Never mind actually knowing how to drive and paying >> attention to what is in front of you. >> >> Mike >> On Aug 20, 2012 7:39 PM, "Hendrik & Fay" <heni...@ozemail.com.au> wrote: >> >> So you are saying that MB (and Volvo) engineered a death trap? >>> Well I am pretty sure when MB decided to build the S123 and thought it >>> would be handy to put a couple of extra seats in the back, that they >>> envisaged the possibility that the car could be involved in a rear end >>> collision. >>> They may even have done a few crash tests to determine what would happen >>> to the rear compartment in the event of a crash. >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?****v=K5mIYDod-lk&NR=1<http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=K5mIYDod-lk&NR=1> >>> <http://**www.youtube.com/watch?v=**K5mIYDod-lk&NR=1<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5mIYDod-lk&NR=1> >>> > >>> Also the fuel tank is designed to drop down but not hit the road. >>> The question is what is safer, having kids sit on laps without seat belts >>> or sit in the third row seat? >>> >>> In regards to two trucks >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?****v=LrtOMLHx7cc<http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=LrtOMLHx7cc> >>> <http://www.**youtube.com/watch?v=**LrtOMLHx7cc<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrtOMLHx7cc> >>> > >>> >>> Hendrik >>> who owns a death trap >>> >>> On 20/08/12 13:04, relng...@aol.com wrote: >>> >>> So then, what would happen to them in case of a rear end >>>> >>>>> collision is of no concern. >>>>> >>>>> Huh? Of course what happens to them in a rear-end collision is >>>> of concern. But why limit the discussion to only that one kind? What >>>> would >>>> happen to them in a T-bone accident? I suspect they >>>> would be better off in the third seat. Or a head-on? I'm sure they >>>> would >>>> be safer in the rear-facing >>>> seat. What about Rollover? Rear-quarter? Front quarter? Space shuttle >>>> pieces landing on top? Underwater? So I guess I need to decide which >>>> type of >>>> collision I am going to >>>> encounter and then choose the appropriate vehicle. >>>> >>>> In a rear end collision in that vehicle the rear hatch is likely to be >>>> crushed forward into the very area occupied by those 3rd seat occupants >>>> and they >>>> would be trapped until the crushed metal was removed. >>>> >>>> Or how they would escape in case of fire? >>>> See previous answe.r >>>> >>>> My suburban carries a large quantity of gasoline. My wagon >>>> carries diesel. Therefore the danger from fire is _less_ in >>>> the car with the rear-facing seats. >>>> >>>> Why bring up your truck? Was this a comparison with it? Not by me. >>>> >>>> So what fire are you referring to? Where? Caused by what? >>>> Burning what? And why is the rear hatch not opening? >>>> >>>> Because the rear of the car will be crushed. And isn't the fuel tank aft >>>> of >>>> the axle under that seat? >>>> >>>> What is the scenario where you feel a rear-facing 3rd seat is a >>>> greater danger than a forward facing 3rd seat with regard to a fire? >>>> >>>> Previously answered. My argument is that the 3rd row's hazards outweigh >>>> any >>>> convenience and it wouldn't make any difference which way it faced. >>>> >>>> About ten years ago near here on I-405 one of those longbody Econoline >>>> passenger vans with four rows was caught in a sandwich crash between two >>>> semis >>>> and caught fire. 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