Oral surgery is a bit more than a simple filling. I was talking about a simple filling. There are times that anesthesia is appropriate. For most people, the fear of the drill is worse than the pain for a filling.

In Craig's case, some medication is appropriate for a short time. I am just saying that pain can often be overcome by attitude. Not my invention. This method has been around for centuries in many cultures.

FWIW,

I am a dentist (oral surgeon), I don't do dentistry without numbing, I would not even consider doing a painful procedure on someone without it. I am a firm believer in that pain should be addressed. First to eliminate the cause of the pain in as painless as possible method. I then obviously advise some sort of pain relief after. Ibuprofen is an excellent OTC medication for pain. However Lortab and Percocet are indicated when Ibuprofen is not enough. IMHO, one should take advantage of modern medicine. We don't recommend whiskey anymore (LOL). I also routinely use IV sedation. The use of anesthesia is for one reason. That would be the prevention and protection of the patient having pain. Having said the above long term use of narcotic pain medicine is NOT indicated generally. These can be habit forming. This obviously would not be a good thing. Having hip surgery (again my opinion) is a indication for narcotic pain medicine (relief). There is little benefit of someone hurting after a procedure.


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From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sun, Mar 24, 2013 2:27 pm
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Correct.  Nothing eliminates pain.  Pain is there to keep us from
hurting ourselves and to allow healing.

I do not even let the dentist use Novocaine.  The drill is annoying,
but the pain is not that bad.  When I get out of the chair, it is
over.  When they use Novocaine,  you are out of commission for at
least half a day.  Overcoming pain is more a matter of mind over
matter.  This position is not without experience.  My back was nearly
broken over 40 years ago.  It hurts right now.  But it is a minor
annoyance.

Having the right mindset, laughing, and keeping busy are the best
medications for pain.

I believe there are less addictive medicines available, if medicine
is necessary.


Some painkillers affect people differently.  For example, after a few doses
of Percoset I stopped taking them because of unpredictable side effects.
  Hydrocodone was far more predictable but I also only took a few.  I am
like Dan, would rather tough it out.

Pain medication is supposed to reduce, not eliminate pain, right?

I think a lot of people think pain medication should eliminate pain of any
sort.

On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> wrote:

  That stuff scares the heck out of me. I am understandably concerned about
  the wife's upcoming hip replacement surgery, as I know there will be a lot
  of post operative pain, and she has a pretty low threshold for it.

  I rarely even take something for a headache, as I would rather tough it
  out than take medication, even OTC stuff.

  Dan

  Sent from my iPad

  On Mar 24, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Peter Frederick <psf...@earthlink.net>
  wrote:

  > My own personal experiences with strong painkillers are very limited --
had a kidney stone in 2002, NOT fun, but one percocet was more than enough,
  tossed the rest.  The pain goes away, the drugs last all day.
  >
  > After my auto accident, I had some severe pain from bruised nerves, and
  those Lortabs were great for the two days I really suffered, but how wants
  to be zoned out?  I got stuff to do, even when I'm so sore I can barely
  move, I don't want to be out.
  >
  > As I said, the real danger is finding being disconnected from reality
 >>  blissful.  Steep slope down to a place ya don't wanna be, I think.
  >
  > Everybody knows at least one alcoholic, painkiller addiction is the
  same, just a different way to get there.
  >
  > Peter
  >
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