It hit the GROUND.  The plane hit the seawall about 500' short of the runway.  
Also looks like it was about 30' right of centerline.  Although I hate 
speculating, it looks like a classic case of low and slow.  Pilots were late in 
recognizing situation resulting in gear and/or tail section striking seaway in 
a nose up attitude.  This would cause an immediate slamming of the nose to the 
runway where it slid to a stop.

I'm sure we'll hear more soon.

It really is tragic.

Jon

On Jul 7, 2013, at 9:20 AM, Scott Ritchey wrote:

> 
> I watched the live helicopter video on FOX online for a bit shortly after
> the crash.  There was a debris field of small parts starting in the water
> and all over the underrun.  One main gear truck was lying on the runway very
> close to the approach end.  It looked like horizontal and vertical tail
> surfaces there too along with a trail of small debris.  Looks to me that
> this thing started coming apart before it touched down.  The tail appeared
> to break off cleanly just aft of the aft pressure bulkhead.  It really
> looked to me like the tail hit something, but I can't imagine what.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael
> Canfield
> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 8:57 AM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?
> 
> Sounds like someone is in a world of trouble.
> 
> Mike
> On Jul 7, 2013 8:41 AM, "Gerry Archer" <arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> snip....A San Francisco airport spokesman said a component of the
> airport's
>> instrument landing system that tracks an incoming aeroplane's glide path
>> has
>> been out of service in recent weeks and was not operational on Saturday.
>> Pilots and air safety experts said the glide path technology was far from
>> essential for a safe landing in good weather. But Chesley "Sully"
>> Sullenberger, a retired pilot and safety consultant who gained fame for
>> landing a plane safely in the Hudson river in 2009, said investigators
>> would
>> certainly be looking into the issue.
>> "The pilots would have had to rely solely on visual cues to fly the proper
>> glide path to the runway, and not have had available to them the
> electronic
>> information that they typically have even in good weather at most major
>> airports," he told a local TV news channel....snip
>> 
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/**world/2013/jul/07/san-**
>> 
> francisco-plane-crash-asiana-**airlines<http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013
> /jul/07/san-francisco-plane-crash-asiana-airlines>
>> 
>> 
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