And BTW, my Asian ex spouse never caused an accident and was a very capable
driver, despite having been chauffered around as a child of an upper class
family in Burma before learning to drive on her own.



On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Andrew Strasfogel
<astrasfo...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I wasn't passing judgment on his racism, or lack thereof, but merely the
> precision of his syntax.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Rich Thomas <
> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes, that is what he means, using the Eurocentric designation (orient >
>> rising > sun > east, that sort of thing, coming from the Age of Exploration
>> and Empires and all that, along with a command of the Latin language and
>> the associated etymology).
>>
>> But he is correct.  A good friend of mine married a Chinese girl, very
>> intelligent (she is an economics professor now, Hahvahd, MIT degrees), who
>> grew up in New York City, no car.  She learned to drive at like 22 or so,
>> having had no need of a car up til then or any particular experience with
>> them other than the occasional taxi, and really hated driving but had to in
>> Houston to get anywhere (she did not want to ride the Ghetro).
>>
>> One day we got talking about that subject for some reason, she was all
>> like OMG the Chinese are the worst drivers, me included!  We determined,
>> based on her ability to do extremely sophisticated econometric analysis,
>> etc. that the reason for it was they don't grow up in a car/driving/riding
>> culture (realizing that most are first or second generation) and so do not
>> develop the awareness of subtle clues that are all around us and contribute
>> to our ability to drive to varying degrees of wellness.  Also recognizing
>> many people have their heads up their posteriors, providing a similar
>> result, oriental, chinee, or whatever.  Kinda like being dropped into any
>> culture or situation without that sort of conditioning, you will look like
>> a fool, or worse.  Her parents were off the boat, never drove a car.  She
>> was a city girl, never drove a car, so cars were like some magical thing to
>> them, more or less.
>>
>> So to some extent it is a cultural attribute that is on display for all
>> to observe.  How one gauges that observation is subject to one's own
>> subjective observations.  Clay is also likely somewhat raaaaaaaaacisssssss
>> but that does not really affect the quality of his subjective anecdotal
>> observations in regards to the driving aspect.
>>
>> Also note that in China the chance of dying in a car crash is something
>> like 10% for all drivers.  That is, uh, high.
>>
>> --R
>>
>>
>> On 9/10/13 10:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>
>>> Do you mean Asians?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:39 AM, clay <redgh...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am not impressed with the driving ability of orientals.  I am pretty
>>>> sure the ones across the street are PLA spies.  Been there two years and
>>>> seem to get new high end cars every six months or so.  First it was VW,
>>>> then they moved to Benz, now it is BMW.  I had a good snicker this past
>>>> weekend when the fold down hard top was left down overnight while the
>>>> massive thunder storm blew through.  The red leather looked very unhappy
>>>> with a few inches of water all over it.
>>>>
>>>> clay
>>>>
>>>> Who is glad you and the car are both doing well
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 9, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just about had the old 300D wiped out yesterday.
>>>>> My younger son and I were on our way to a big car show that is
>>>>> sponsored
>>>>>
>>>> by the Fabulous 50's Ford Club here annually in early September.
>>>>
>>>>> We were turning left in one of those double left turn setups, if you
>>>>>
>>>> understand what I mean.
>>>>
>>>>> We were southbound on McPhillips Street turning east onto Leila Avenue.
>>>>>
>>>> There are 2 dedicated left turn lanes and I was in the outside lane.
>>>>
>>>>> A fellow of Asian descent was in the other lane in a late model black
>>>>>
>>>> SUV. The light turned in our favour and we both moved forward but as he
>>>> turned the corner he drifted from the inside lane to the outside lane
>>>> where
>>>> I was.
>>>>
>>>>> I don't know how I managed to dodge him and I don't think he even knew
>>>>> I
>>>>>
>>>> was there. What a jacka**.
>>>>
>>>>> My son's comment was, that insurance would likely pay me more than I
>>>>>
>>>> might be able to sell the car for.
>>>>
>>>>> Always a bright side I suppose as long as one does not get injured.
>>>>>
>>>>> Randy
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