I think its unfair to say that I hate Macs, I think Apple makes robust hardware 
but I also think the love that the average Mac fanboy gives is missplaced.
Face it, Apple is going to break your wallet every 5 years or so. If you want 
to keep up with the rest of the world (for surfing or running new software or 
whatever) Apple will absolutely force you to upgrade at 5 years MAX because 
they'll abandon you.

Has MIcrosoft done that? Absolutely NOT. WinXP is still seeing reasonably good 
support for an OS thats 11 years old. In that time Apple has put out 7 or 8 
versions of OS 10 and dropped support for who knows how many platforms. When 
Microsoft leaves you its just because no new drivers get written for your 
hardware, maybe somebody in the wild can work something up. When Apple leaves 
you the OS detects your hardware platform and DENYS you.

I know I can get adapters and really the two that gall me are firewire and an 
RJ45 for Ethernet, I'd forgotten there was an HDMI port. Two years ago Apple 
told us Firewire 800 was the bee's knees and we should all invest in it, now 
its "oh no, you really wanted Thunderbolt..."

Windows 7 is a very good OS (8 sucks but that was to be expected) and is as 
stable as 10.6+ and has much better third party support. Software support for 
Macs will always be limited because Apple treats third party developers poorly. 
I've now worked for 3 third party developers (admittedly 2 were competitors) 
and apple seems to honestly enjoy pulling the rug out from under them.
Win7 is more configurable and gives way more kernel level support.
BTW, want to boot a PC to Linux on a key drive as a live disk (as I'm doing 
right now)? Easy. Want it on a Mac? Can't be done, Apple doesn't want you doing 
that...

I'm not saying Windows is a perfect OS but its a big world and there are 
choices for everybody.

I did spend some time at Frys the other day looking at the $250 Chromebook. 
Nice little laptop for the money...

-Curt


Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 09:00:23 -0700
From: Alex Chamberlain <apchamberl...@gmail.com>
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] M(ac)B question
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On Oct 29, 2013 8:42 AM, "Curt Raymond" <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>t I'm starting to think my Retina
> Macbook Pro was a mistake,
> everything about it is a pain in the ass,
> no optical drive, no firewire, stupid
> external monitor port nobody else
> uses.

You can get converters to HDMI and FireWire easily enough.  The ports on
the MBP are going to be the next standards and like it or not Apple is
leading the way as they did with USB and FireWire in the '90s and '00s.

Or are you just trolling?  We already know you hate Macs, Curt.

Honestly I can't imagine why anyone defends Microsoft or the Wintel
ecosystem.  The only reasonable responses to Windows range from disgust to
indifference.  Anyone who actually likes Windows has a screw loose.

Alex
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