For the record:  I am NOT advocating violence or overthrow of government..
I am simply making observations based on three things.

First: History is replete with citizens revolts when government becomes
oppressive. It has been a long standing observation that history does
repeat it's self.

Second: I see and hear a rising tide of unhappy citizens expressing
displeasure with government oppression.

Third: The founding fathers who wrote the Constitution and Bill of Rights
were well experienced in government oppression and wisely established that
there would be opportunity to peacefully revolt through the ballot box at
every election cycle.

Further, that should that fail, every citizen shall be guaranteed the right
to speak freely against and have legal redress against government.

Further should that fail, every citizen shall be guaranteed the right to
arms to take action to defend against oppressive government.. and defense
of self and property.

I apparently incorrectly presumed the above was self evident to all
Citizens.  My sincere apology.


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:40 PM, clay <redgh...@comcast.net> wrote:

> I think G is calling the future as he sees it unfolding.  He wants to know
> if he should expect a lingering death at the hands of massive medical or a
> swift demise from lead poisoning
>
> clay
>
> On Apr 7, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
> > Are you advocating for the violent overthroew of our government?
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:29 AM, G Mann <g2ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I've really enjoyed all this discussion about obamacare/aca. After
> giving
> >> it all a good look, actually reading the original bill, as signed, and
> [to
> >> best effort] understanding it, then watching the discussion here I've
> come
> >> to two possible courses of action.
> >>
> >> 1. Die a lingering death waiting for approval of treatment under
> >> obamacare/aca, or being refused said care because of my advancing age
> and
> >> no longer being a contributing member to the advancement of society
> [death
> >> panel action].
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >> 2. Die in the coming revolution while trying to effect substantive
> change
> >> in the current runaway government.
> >>
> >> Pick one.. does that about sum-ate the options?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Richard Hattaway
> >> <rhatta...@rocketmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> If you're a common folk who makes over 60K or so, and are under 65 yrs
> >>> old, and not covered by insurance, POTUS has made it such that you are
> >>> going to get shafted.
> >>>
> >>> For the first years you can take the hit on income tax, fines for not
> >>> purchasing a product ( a first, in my opinion ) and that hit will not
> be
> >> so
> >>> bad.  But it escalates pretty fast, and soon you will be paying
> seriously
> >>> for your lack of purchase.
> >>>
> >>> If you're over 65 then you're on medicare, and that's free unless you
> >> want
> >>> doctor coverage.  Doctor coverage is not so bad, as health insurance
> >> goes,
> >>> and neither is the drug insurance, compared to what the same costs are
> in
> >>> private industry insurance, on average.  If you never buy drugs, then
> the
> >>> drug insurance is a waste of money.  You get to re-do every year, so
> the
> >>> worst that will happen is you get a year of high bills from the
> pharmacy.
> >>>
> >>> Taking a Gary position, I'm sure glad the government does not  require
> me
> >>> to buy all the Chia Pets on TV.  But there is *no* difference between
> >> this
> >>> and ACA, in my opinion.
> >>>
> >>> On Sunday, April 6, 2014 6:34 PM, Mountain Man <maontin....@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Richard wrote:
> >>>> Oh, and they have great healtcare and retirement benefits.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> And what can be done by the common folks?
> >>> Be a ghost as much as possible possible.
> >>> mao
> >>>
> >>>
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