So is this effort your part in getting her to be gone?

--R


On 7/28/14 7:04 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
Lies, mischaracterizations, obfuscation and deceit.

That is how cars are sold.

SWMBA wants to drive the AlCan to get to her new abode.  The korean sedan will 
not meet her needs, so she decided a used Rav4 would.  No research was done on 
her part and she blithely wanders into a few places she found a suitable 
example from CL.  I had bothered to bone up on the cars and kept my mouth shut 
except when it got thick and silly.  We wasted a weekend test driving the 
things and having mouth breathers  bloviate about the wonderful deals they 
would make her.  I told her it was her decision, as I would not be driving the 
thing.

Last Friday, after I had to field calls from sales critters  (she did not want 
to divulge her corporate #), I told her to check back with the persistent 
feller at the toy oda shop.  Most of the places she looked were selling auction 
cars and marked up stickers.  They thought the cars were pooped out by the 
almighty himself and would not negotiate or get close to her price.  The guy at 
the toad lot got the sweetest deal by having the car be CPO, dropped closest to 
her price, and then negotiations hit a bump.  No more room they said.

She is texting me at work to get my take.  I tell her to pit the three shops 
with the cars she likes against each other.  Call one shop while at the desk 
waiting for the critter to get back from chatting up his manager.  Pull up 
other listings while she waits.  Get up and get a cup of tea and snack, then 
walk outside for fresh air.  An hour later, the rock bottom price they can 
offer is stated.  No wiggle room for them, and still not making her happy.  I 
tell her to make them sweeten the pot with goodies, like weather beater carpet 
covers, and tchotkes that really will cost them nothing, but would make her 
feel she got a deal.

Now she wants me to fully detail her sedan.  That is not going to happen.  I 
told her to spend the cash for a shop to do it, because I need to spend at 
least that much to get supplies stocked to do the job right.


clay

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








On Jul 27, 2014, at 6:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Trip #3 to try out new trucks took us to a Mazda dealership that had a 2010 
Chevy Silverado and 2010 Ford 150. We decided we liked the Ford better but it 
was a crew cab (and $28k).

We don't need a crew cab full size so we decided to go over to the Ford dealer 
who actually persuaded us that it made more sense to look at a new truck than 
used. We drove a 2014 F150 STX access cab, which is I guess pretty much the 
base model, cloth seats, rubber floor mat, 5.0l v8. Its still pretty fancy, 
6spd auto, satellite radio, AC blows ice cold :) 4wd with electronic locking 
rear diff.

Sat down to do the numbers, they're giving a base price of $36,600 and the first deal 
came down to $30,000 which with taxes and fees is something like $33k. That includes $500 
for our ranger plus something like $2,000 in loyalty money. I decided we couldn't pay 
that much and he came back with "Well what would close the deal today?" So I 
said $25,000. They came back with $28,000.

We left saying we still wanted to try the Dodge. I expect they'll call this 
week at least to thank us for going in but I'm wondering if they'll except my 
offer. They tried to tell us that when the 2015s come out (with the new 
aluminum body panels) that the 2014s will get scarce and they'll stop the 
incentives. That seems to not make sense to me, surely the 2014s get cheaper. 
This is my first time looking at new and I feel like I'm flailing in the dark...

-Curt
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