One reason I hold onto my rides.  I can not see buying a newer model with lower 
build quality, when I can use a fraction of the cash to keep what I have on the 
road.

The yoda guys took the car on trade, so it was pretty much 2/3 the sale price 
to acquire.  The infiniti, acura, and bmw shops had paid wholesale and spruced 
the cars up.  No wiggle room and they farmed out the repairs/updates.  The CPO 
will transfer to the AK dealer if need arises, where the other shops stood 
behind their cars, as long as they were on the lot.

I think the detailing costs were so high due to the flatulance embedded in the 
seats.  It comes out of leather easier than fabric


clay

On Jul 28, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

> Toyota seems the least likely to deal. Used sellers of Toyotas seem to think 
> that every time they've farted in the seats its raised the price $1000.
> 
> I was unhappy at the Ford dealership at first, it was the old school "come in 
> and lets talk about things." Where what we really wanted was to drive some 
> trucks but in the end it worked out as we realized that we could probably end 
> up with a better deal on a brand new truck than a used one. I think spending 
> $25,000 and running it for 15 years will make more sense than spending 
> $10,000 every 5 years.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
> To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 7:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?
> 
> 
> 
> Lies, mischaracterizations, obfuscation and deceit.
> 
> That is how cars are sold.
> 
> SWMBA wants to drive the AlCan to get to her new abode.  The korean sedan 
> will not meet her needs, so she decided a used Rav4 would.  No research was 
> done on her part and she blithely wanders into a few places she found a 
> suitable example from CL.  I had bothered to bone up on the cars and kept my 
> mouth shut except when it got thick and silly.  We wasted a weekend test 
> driving the things and having mouth breathers  bloviate about the wonderful 
> deals they would make her.  I told her it was her decision, as I would not be 
> driving the thing.
> 
> Last Friday, after I had to field calls from sales critters  (she did not 
> want to divulge her corporate #), I told her to check back with the 
> persistent feller at the toy oda shop.  Most of the places she looked were 
> selling auction cars and marked up stickers.  They thought the cars were 
> pooped out by the almighty himself and would not negotiate or get close to 
> her price.  The guy at the toad lot got the sweetest deal by having the car 
> be CPO, dropped closest to her price, and then negotiations hit a bump.  No 
> more room they said.  
> 
> She is texting me at work to get my take.  I tell her to pit the three shops 
> with the cars she likes against each other.  Call one shop while at the desk 
> waiting for the critter to get back from chatting up his manager.  Pull up 
> other listings while she waits.  Get up and get a cup of tea and snack, then 
> walk outside for fresh air.  An hour later, the rock bottom price they can 
> offer is stated.  No wiggle room for them, and still not making her happy.  I 
> tell her to make them sweeten the pot with goodies, like weather beater 
> carpet covers, and tchotkes that really will cost them nothing, but would 
> make her feel she got a deal.
> 
> Now she wants me to fully detail her sedan.  That is not going to happen.  I 
> told her to spend the cash for a shop to do it, because I need to spend at 
> least that much to get supplies stocked to do the job right.
> 
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
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> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
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