I'm talking about domestic cars, not MBs. But since you brought it up....

As for the 450SLs, those things were total nightmares. I've seen tons of them 
here in Floridia, and every one of them has a cooked engine compartment from 
those cats.

Dan

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> On Aug 21, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> This proves that poos is a moron and does not know what he is talking about. 
> Those were the best vehicle years. The under hood 450 cat is the best thing 
> ever. I am working on a plan to retrofit that into older and newer cars. 
> 
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>> On Aug 21, 2015, at 9:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I wrenched heavily at this time and saw the worst of the pollution 
>> controlled, poorly built American iron. It was gawdawful stuff and you could 
>> tell the engineers were flying by the seats of their pants.
>> 
>> 1974-5 were probably the worst years, in my opinion. Just horrible in so 
>> many ways.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
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>>> On Aug 21, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I feel like the American car builders could have suffered through the 
>>> malaise era if build quality had been decent but considering the truly 
>>> awful build quality of the time its no surprise people looked to the 
>>> east.Also considering what crappy cars asia was producing if the Americans 
>>> had kept their build quality high the asian makers would have never gotten 
>>> a foothold.My in-laws have a Ford Fusion that is an excellent car, probably 
>>> the best made vehicle they've ever had and at least as good as any Toyota 
>>> but the resale value pales when next to a Camry.
>>> -Curt
>>>    From: Curly McLain via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>> Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> 
>>> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 8:37 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why is 1968 a watershed year for Mercedes?
>>> 
>>> It was the beginning of the end for merkun iron too.  1968 cars had 
>>> rudimentary smog crap hung on em.  By 1974, merkun iron was fully 
>>> smothered and were total crap.
>>> 
>>> 
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