Floyd wrote:  "If you unload the 140 . . ."   Is that a possibility, Dan? You 
might unload the 140? After you fix the current problem? 

Don Snook 



-----Original Message-----
From: Floyd Thursby [mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:32 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 606 non turbo egr valve

ML is 2012, would your thing work on that?  If you unload the 140 I would be 
interested in the system if it would work on the ML.  I looked into these a few 
months back when you were talking about using it on the S430, and there was a 
wide range of systems, somewhat confusing.

--R


On 8/27/16 3:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> It’s actually referred to as a C3 or C4 system.  C3 uses a serial port and 
> the C4 USB or WiFi, I think.
>
> It will cover anything starting with the 38 pin diagnostic connector all the 
> way up to the systems used in 2010, maybe later. My W220 used the OBD II port 
> for a connection.
>
> It’s actually sort of amazing with the older cars, since it has an emulator 
> that emulates the handheld tester that was originally designed for the 38 pin 
> diagnostic connector they started out with in the early 1990s.  It’s 
> amazingly powerful - you can get real time readings of things like spark 
> voltages and durations, transmission clutch engagement times, some really 
> deep engineering related stuff.
>
> I know a guy on BenzWorld who uses one to gauge the wear on the 722.6 
> transmissions by looking at the clutch engagement times.
>
> The later systems are Xentry, and you would be overwhelmed by the amount of 
> data that it can produce and give you access to.  I think there were over 200 
> different screens for my 2003 S430 (W220) when I went through it.
>
> These systems cover from the HHT (hand held tester) to DAS, which is early 
> 2000s, to Xentry, which I believe started in 2007 or thereabouts.  You can 
> get them with the cables, MUX (multiplexer) and a computer on Alibaba for 
> anywhere from $400 up.  I bought a C3 system with just the cables, MUX and a 
> VM of the software on an external drive for a little over $300 shipped to the 
> States.
>
>   
>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 3:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Does that computer setup you have apply to all MBs or just that specific 
>> model?  The way my wife is racking up miles on the ML the warranty is going 
>> to run out in a year or two and I guess at that point I will either have to 
>> trade it on something else to keep her happy or learn to fix it.  For that I 
>> guess the computer is a necessity, or part of the nece$$itie$.
>>
>> --FT
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