Engine compartment is 45 percent of concours judging score sheet.  If you
want to win you need a clean engine.

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I always figured  a thin coat of dieselfuel/oil preserved things in the
> engine compartment.  But I never had show cars.  On the OM636, OM621,
> OM615, OM616/7 and OM603/2/1 engines I don't think you'd hurt much.  On
> the OM606 on, with all the electronics, it is probably not advisable to
> hose down the engine; certainly pressure washers on those engines.
>
>
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> Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> September 10, 2016 at 4:54 AM
>> This brings up an interesting question; is it wise to do a detail on a
>> M.B. Diesel engine?
>> Ralph
>>
>> On Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> MAFs aren’t bad, but they can be tough to source.
>>
>> Mercedes has rebuilt ones - the one for this car is about $370.00 reman,
>> new $463.36.  New ones are tough to coe by, but the remans are usually in
>> stock.
>>
>> Dan
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>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> September 10, 2016 at 4:45 AM
>> MAFs aren’t bad, but they can be tough to source.
>>
>> Mercedes has rebuilt ones - the one for this car is about $370.00 reman,
>> new $463.36. New ones are tough to coe by, but the remans are usually in
>> stock.
>>
>> Dan
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>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> September 10, 2016 at 4:32 AM
>> If the “detailer† used silicone based products on or around the
>> engine compartment, they borked your MAF. If silicone gets on the sensing
>> parts of the MAF, it kills them. This is well known and documented.
>>
>> Lift the hood and see if you’ve got a shiny engine.
>>
>> Dan
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>> Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> September 9, 2016 at 9:50 PM
>> So I bought that low miles 1994 e420 from Jeremy and Co up in SF. Figured
>> I
>> need the car and they said it drove well and was in good shape, and that's
>> about all I need in a 420. Paid and they sent the car.
>>
>> It arrived yesterday. Started, backed off trailer fine. It was about 8am
>> so
>> I hopped in it and attempted to drive to work. Unfortunately, it would rev
>> to about 1500rpm and stall, and repeat the sequence about every second or
>> so. It idles as smooth as silk, just won't throttle up. No lights on the
>> dash. Never got out of first gear or above 20mph. Not good news! Called
>> tow
>> truck, then Lyft.
>>
>> Herbert the German mechanic says the fault code is either the throttle
>> body
>> actuator or the computer that controls it. He says the throttle body is
>> not
>> opening properly in response to pedal input. He asks if there has ever
>> been
>> water on the engine. I say not to my knowledge. He is still sorting out
>> what exactly is failing. Either one is a spendy item apparently; 1500 for
>> the actuator and lord knows if a computer would even be available. Herbert
>> himself isn't cheap either, but he knows mercedes.
>>
>> So I got Jeremy on the phone and relayed this info. He apparently drove it
>> for several days and to the smog place before listing it, and it was
>> completely fine including the dyno test at smog. He says they did detail
>> the engine after that though.
>>
>> So here is the question: what stuff typically gets messed up when you wash
>> an e420 motor that can cause this sort of thing? I am still hoping for an
>> outside chance of something simple, and I figured I would see if there is
>> any collective wisdom on this topic.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Karl
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