I remember years ago, the conventional wisdom was if the vehicle has a lot of 
miles and the transmission has never been serviced, then its best to leave it 
alone.  Is that still true with much more modern transmissions?  The only 
transmission issue I have ever had was with my 1981 Oldsmobile 98.  But, it had 
the 2004r transmission which was notorious for failure at 100,000 miles.  It 
had 135,000 when it failed.  Of all the other cars I have had, I have never had 
a transmission problem (knocking on wood!).  But, I have done transmission 
services on many on many of them to try to be pro-active about it.  Except of 
course, the BMW's I have had because apparently it is a sealed transmission and 
to service it requires a big ordeal. 

Don Snook 

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Hertzing [mailto:phertz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:20 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2007 Ford Expedition EL

Not necessarily issues...  But at near 200k in any full size truck your looking 
at tranny replacement unless someone has been fastidious with fluid changes.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Mitch wrote:  "100,000 mile spark plugs that want to take the threads with 
> them when you finally remove them?
> Or was that a different engine?"
> 
> Rick wrote:
> 
> "Google Ford 5.4 Spark Plug removal."
> 
> Peter wrote:
> 
> "Check the tranny.  If it hasn't been rebuilt it's due."
> 
> 
> Thanks for the info.  I knew about the ignition coil issues on the 5.4L.  
> But, I didn't know about seized plugs.  It seems like just about all vehicles 
> with ignition coils will need them replaced at some point at least once they 
> get enough miles on them.  My thinking on it is it is a trade off compared 
> with replacing plugs, wires, distributor caps, etc. like we all used to have 
> to do every 15-30,000 miles on older cars.   I am wondering how to check 
> this.  I guess I could bring some tools and try to try to remove one of the 
> plugs.  And/or see if the seller has service records showing the plugs were 
> replaced already.  Hopefully with 180K they are not original.  Even if they 
> were changed at 100,000 miles, they would need to be done soon.  But, that's 
> not a huge issue.    Now, Peter's warning about the transmission has me 
> concerned.  I didn't know these had transmission issues.
> 
> I had a 2001 Expedition previously and it was a great vehicle.  In fact, my 
> wife pretty much claimed it when I brought it home.  It had almost 180,000 
> miles on it when I sold it.  I never had any problems with it, except I had 
> to replace the fuel pump.   I learned later the fuel pump was a weakness on 
> these vehicles and my wife was bad about running it pretty low.
> 
> Don Snook
> 2001 BMW 740iL M Sport 131K miles (for sale soon)
> 2000 BMW 740iL 227K
> 1992 Ford F-150 148K (possibly for sale soon)
> 
> 
> 
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