A digital recording of a diesel idling would be perfect.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In NYC in the winter time you see mountain bikes with screws protruding
> from the knobbies for ice traction...
> -Curt
>
>       From: Meade Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com>
>  To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 10:17 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?
>
> No headphone, but often a wool hat over ears to fend off frostbite.
> Farmer John knobby tires were all the rage on mountain bikes back then, I
> could get through the snow pretty well, ice was another story.
>
> -------------
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> I didn't think about bicycles in my previous reply, what you say makes
> sense, especially if you had headphones in.
> Still, you need to be aware of your surroundings, head on a spring and
> all...
> -Curt
>
>       From: Max Dillon via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: Max Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com>
>  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 9:52 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?
>
> A bicycle rider experiences wind noise and their own breathing noise that
> can completely drown out any reasonably quiet vehicle.  In my college days
> I rode a mountain bike all over the UW Madison Wisconsin campus, and I had
> to pay very close attention to the buses with engines in the rear, they
> could overtake me and I wouldn't get any audibles, only visuals.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On November 15, 2016 9:41:45 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >On my bike, riding through a parking lot, one almost ran me over as I
> >was making a turn, it tried to go around me.
> >
> >In a rotary on my bike, one tried to go around me on the outside when I
> >
> >moved to go off the rotary onto another road it almost clipped me.
> >
> >In both cases I was in the "right" (dead right maybe, but still right)
> >according to traffic law and common sense.
> >
> >In both cases they were going rather slowly on battery, and made
> >absolutely no noticeable noise.
> >
> >--FT
> >
> >
> >On 11/15/16 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >> How can you not hear the noise a car makes on the pavement? They're
> >far from silent. I don't consider myself the most observant person in
> >the world but I notice when theres a car near me. Maybe I have a better
> >self preservation instinct than most people...
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>        From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >>  To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> Cc: Floyd Thursby <buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com>
> >>  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:59 AM
> >>  Subject: [MBZ] OT Can you hear my Pious now?
> >>
> >> The gummint is going to require Pioi and other electron-powered
> >vehicles
> >> to make enough noise so you can hear it before it runs you over.
> >Having
> >> had close encounters of the second kind more than once I can relate.
> >>
> >
> >--
> >--FT
> >Winston Churchill:
> >“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> >large or petty,
> >never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> >Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might
> >of the enemy.”
> >
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