They have insurance for such things. If they don't they should not be in business.
Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 30, 2017, at 7:57 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Thanks Curley - > > See my previous post. I plan to re-test to make sure I can repeat the > results. Getting this very small shop to pay for a new/rebuilt IP + a rental > car will be a challenge IMO. Hindsight is always 20/20 - I never should have > taken the MB there. > > Larry > > >> On 01/27/2017 4:24 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: >> If # 3 is leaking noticeably less fuel than the others, you have identified >> the problem. They screwed up your pump! You should demand that that shop >> FIX IT. The fix is to either provide you a rebuilt IP or pay to have your >> IP rebuilt, and a rental car while yours is down. >> >> Repeat the test. It should only take 1/3 to 2/3 turn to get the fuel to >> squirt out and determine which cyl is weak. If you loosen #3 and the idle >> does not get as rough as when you loosen any other that is the culprit. >> >> If #3 is indeed pumping noticeably less than the other 4, there is NO NEED >> to remove the injectors. >> >> If #3 seems to pump the same volume as the others, then the next step would >> be to determine the weak cyl and they swap 2 injectors to see if the >> problem moves. >> >> Taking out the nozzle holder does not require a special tool you need a 1 >> 1/16" deep socket with the splines cut all the way up. Crapsman used to be >> the easy way to find one. I am not sure if the current stuff is still the >> same. >> >>> Larry Turner via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> January 27, 2017 at 1:07 PM >>> Thanks Curley. You're talking about removing the Injectors and that's >>> something I have never done (never needed to til now). >>> >>> I have to decide how I want to proceed. >>> >>> BTW, before I learned the fuel lines were self bleeding, I cracked a couple >>> of lines (maybe all of them) to see if I was getting fuel to the Injectors. >>> I noticed #3 acting different than the others. The others squirted fuel >>> from the threads (depending on how much I loosened the injectors) . So so >>> while #3 might be a good place to start I need to repeat that process to >>> confirm #3 has a weak stream of fuel. >>> >>> Let's say I have #3 definitely acting suspiciously - producing a dribble of >>> fuel after loosening the nuts 1 or 2 full turns - which ever amount >>> produces a good flow of fuel from the others. If #3 is showing a reduced >>> amount of fuel getting to the Injector, I assume I have 2 options : having >>> the Injectors tuned up/serviced as indicated my Max, or replaced with a >>> rebuilt Injector? Are those my options? >>> >>> I have to decide how to have the work performed - I may be forced to R&R >>> the Injectors myself and either install a new one or have this one tuned >>> up. If that happens I'll need to get a lot more info about what is >>> involved with R&R'ing the injectors. Plus I'll need to learn more about >>> the special tools required. But we can address that later. >>> >>> Larry >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> Curley McLain <mailto:126die...@gmail.com> >>> January 26, 2017 at 6:05 PM >>> If you have already changed the copper seals, springs and orings, and it >>> still idles rough, it is time to crack the injector lines and determine >>> which cyl is weak. You need the heat shields because when you remove an >>> injector holder, you are supposed to replace the heat shield (seal) between >>> the injector nozzle and the prechamber. For diagnosis, you can surely get >>> by with changing the nozzle holders and leave the old heat shields in. I >>> have done it and seen injection experts do it too. If you need to >>> clean/adjust/replace and recalibrate the nozzles, then you definitely put >>> new heat shields in at that time. If the problem proves to be the IP, then >>> you can buy a couple of heat shields and replace the ones you messed with. >>> >>> >>> Larry Turner via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> January 26, 2017 at 1:48 PM >>> Thanks Curley, >>> Which heat shields are you suggesting? (602 engine) >>> So you think the problem might be in the injector? >>> >>> I won't do the above til I do the one at a time you mentioned. >>> >>> Larry >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> Curley McLain <mailto:126die...@gmail.com> >>> January 26, 2017 at 1:26 PM >>> 1. Crack the injector lines at the injector one at a time to determine >>> which cyl is weak. Make note of the weak cyl number. (Wrap a rag around >>> the tube to lessen the fuel bath) >>> 2. Buy 2 or more heat shields. >>> 3. swap a strong injector with the weak one. >>> 4. Repeat step 1. a: If the weak cyl moved, get a new set of nozzles >>> calibrated and install. >>> b: If the weak cyl is the same, take it back >>> to the same shop, explain what you did, and tell them they owe you a >>> rebuilt pump. Install it yourself, or get someone COMPETENT to install it. >>> >>> >>> Larry Turner via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> January 26, 2017 at 12:56 PM >>> Hi gang, >>> >>> Dropped the car off at a shop to fix a oil leak. (This may be old news) >>> The leak was coming from one of the delivery valves. After replacing the >>> DV O-rings I picked the car up and have had it for about a week. The >>> leak is gone but the car runs terribly. Like it's running on 4 cylinders. >>> I bought new o-rings and redid them. No change. It still runs bad. I >>> re-did the o-rings twice with no change. Either I'm doing something basic >>> wrong or one of the valves dropped. >>> >>> I'm trying to decide what to do next. >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> My wife is ready to buy a new car. I plan to call the shop but have very >>> low expectation of them doing anything. >>> >>> When this all started I talked to this list and got your advice for >>> rebuilding the DVs. I followed the procedure sent to me by Curley. It >>> was a Very straight-forward and easy to follow procedure. (Thanks again >>> Curley) >>> >>> I can see the shop doing it wrong, This area isn't big on foreign cars so >>> the shop who did the work probably works on more Fords and Chevy's than >>> MBs. wise I can see me doing it wrong once but not twice! I tend to be >>> pretty careful when working o something like the Inj, >>> >>> What to do, what to do......? >>> >>> Any ideas or thoughts? >>> >>> LarryT. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
