In Seattle they bust you for running a yellow light.  In D.C. as well but
only if it turns red before you clear the intersection..

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Agreed, but in our case the County and a number of surrounding cities that
> have them used yellow light timings that were below the state recommended
> minimums.  In other words, there wasn’t enough time to clear the
> intersection based on the recommendations of traffic engineers.
>
> They got busted in a similar manner, as we’ve got a guy over in Pinellas
> County who documented this in great detail.  When he presented his report
> to the various municipalities, they went back and adjusted the yellow light
> times to the state recommended values.  After this got major press in the
> local media, of course.
>
> Guess what?  The number of red light tickets decreased significantly, as
> did the revenue from the tickets.  What an amazing correlation.  A couple
> of cities decided it was no longer worth it and dropped their red light
> cameras.
>
> And I might add, he also was able to prove that the installation of red
> light cameras did nothing to decrease the number of accidents at these
> intersections, either, which was the rationale the politicians used to put
> them in.  So that line of reasoning went out the window as well.
>
> A pretty funny story with these - a local prosecutor got busted by a red
> light camera doing a right turn on red. He successfully fought the ticket
> and brought out of the shadows a very obscure state law that says you don’t
> have to come to a complete stop for a right turn on red - you just have to
> slow down to 11 mph or less.  Using the camera data he was able to prove he
> was moving slower than this when he turned and the camera fired.  This
> caused a massive roll back of tickets that had been issued for similar
> reasons.
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 8, 2017, at 12:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I got no tolerance for red light runners.  Speed cameras are another
> > matter.  I collect these like beanie babies.
> >
>
>
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