> OK wrote:

> Laptop can't seem to send audio anywhere else while the HDMI
> wire is in the socket (grumble grumble . . .).

Get an HDMI audio extractor (or de-embedder). 

Something like this for $20
https://www.amazon.com/Musou-Extractor-Optical-Splitter-Converter/dp/B06XDNJ6RM/

No experience with this one.  The pro-level one I have used is this one
http://hallresearch.com/page/Products/HD-AUD

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