excellent links! thanks! "Vehicles not specifically designed for use with S15 (ULSD) may use either S15 (ULSD) or S500 (500 ppm) diesel." So does this mean that we will actually be able to find S500 pumps around? That would be great. If not, will a constant use of a lubricity additive be needed? Chris John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was looking for something on octane and tripped over
http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/fuels/bulletin/diesel/ and of course the timeline for low sulfer diesel http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/fuels/diesel/ulsd.shtml John 1983 300TDt 362k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 164k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40) _______________________________________ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose" -1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen" -1985 300SD, 212K, "Wulf" -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger" --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 06 00:07:02 2006 Received: from web30012.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.201.215]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRI1e-0007WI-Dz for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:07:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 9432 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Apr 2006 00:06:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3iy8wiBeLgnBNAQXuCKqjMpQKw3egJMfjV5+Sz0nBhvD1LwxEVNGRPQeN16TXz33BVHoe3dp7X90Ww+V8vK412QJTOCQOybbU4NK4HNT6iJ0ZYReA38st8FFOKq+5AqE0KoEGG367Wibz9ZSZ2hI6SwtAtSvWemFelbn7ky44M8= ; Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from [67.52.19.222] by web30012.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 17:06:58 PDT Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 17:06:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Elsbett (was veggie emergency fuel) X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:07:03 -0000 Wow, that is bad. I contacted them a while back with a question and got a very short answer. Too bad. Thanks for giving me the whole story. Now there's one less option! Christopher dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My experience with Elsbett was actually rather bad. I shipped him my injectors so he could replace the nozzles and increase the firing pressure. He (probably) swapped the nozzles, but left the firing pressure unchanged. I had sent him the set of injectors I replaced because they were nailing so badly. When I got them back, and later verified on a pressure tester, they were still firing way under pressure. At that point, Elsbett stopped responding to my emails. I sent him 10 emails over a month's time and have not heard from him since. His tech support is non-existent and his "Kit" had little documentation (1 page with pictures) and was a bit above my level of understanding at the time. None of the components were labeled - which left me guessing which of 4 different hoses were to be used for what. I eventually figured out that 2 of the hoses were the wrong ID for the connectors he provided. He also shorted me on the lugs for the relay sockets (you have to assemble them yourself). I muddled through and am still using the stock injectors. I've since swapped out most of his kit for better components. The fact of the matter is that these cars (Mercedes) are very tolerant of running increased viscosity fuel and I'd suggest buying the pieces parts and doing it yourself. Ebay and McMaster are wonderful sources for parts. There are many free resources of information available. Hope this helps -Dave Walton 94S350, 99E300 On 4/4/06, Christopher McCann wrote: > > Dave, > > AH! Finally I find someone with an Elsbett kit. I really like what > I see on their site as it seems much simpler than the US set > ups...I'm talking of the single tank version. Since it rarely gets very > cold here (MO), one could get by with 100% WVO most of the time and a kero > mix the rest of the time. And it's a reasonably priced system...and > it's German :-) > > Please tell me more about your Elsbett experience. Do you put the > WVO in your "regular" tank and have a small diesel tank? Where is the > small diesel tank located? What size is it? > > THANKS! > > Chris > > dave walton wrote: I started running WVO using a > single tank Elsbett kit on my S350 at 150k > miles. At 180k I replaced the head gasket and a bent rod. Things were a > little dirty inside, but nothing major. No where near "coking up" the > rings > or anything like that. I don't quite fit your profile because I only run > 100% WVO during the summer (> 45F), I thin with kerosene during the > winter, > and the oil is heated before it hits the injector pump. I switched to 100% > last week. This morning the car started a little rough at 35F and took a > few > minutes to smooth out. I should have plugged it in overnight. Overall, my > results have been good thus far, however I would not recommend this for > everyone. > > -Dave Walton > 94S350, 99E300 > > On 4/4/06, Levi Smith wrote: > > > > I didn't realize at first that this was a 91' However, I still wouldn't > > have guessed that the fuel was being heated. Though I doubt even if it > > is being heated that it will be to about 180F? > > If it's heated Somewhat you might get away with it on the Benz. > > > > I'm simply referring to posts I've seen on other forums from some guy > > who swore up and down that the old Benz (like 80-85 300D's) didn't need > > any heating. He was in Florida, so everything was pretty warm. Well, > > about 15K miles later he was pissed off cause he had major coking > > problems and it messed up the rings. > > Or at least that's more or less what I *think* I read. Feel free to try > > it yourself and prove me wrong, I'd LOVE to not have to worry about > > it! (: > > > > If you can point me to anyone who has more than say 20K miles and is > > running STRAIGHT 100% veggie with NO HEATING whatsoever, I'd LOVE to > > read it! > > > > Levi (: > > > > > > Jeff Zedic wrote: > > > BZZZT wrong....what work will you need to do in 15k?? > > > > > > The car will runb fine on veggie oil like that. The OM603 has a fuel > > > heater built in. > > > > > > If you'd like to point us to actual FACTS that would be appreciated! > > > > > > Go ahead and throw it in! You'll like it! > > > > > > > > > Jeff Zedic > > > Toronto > > > 87 300TD > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > http://www.striplin.net > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.striplin.net > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.striplin.net > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri > -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose" > -1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen" > -1985 300SD, 212K, "Wulf" > -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent > -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger" > > --------------------------------- > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! > Messenger with Voice. > _______________________________________ > http://www.striplin.net > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > _______________________________________ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose" -1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen" -1985 300SD, 212K, "Wulf" -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger" --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. 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From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 06 00:26:37 2006 Received: from pop-borzoi.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.70]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRIKb-0000jF-0J for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:26:37 +0000 Received: from dialup-4.225.80.113.dial1.cincinnati1.level3.net ([4.225.80.113] helo=earthlink.net) by pop-borzoi.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1FRIKY-0002of-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 20:26:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:19:41 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] Seriously OT:Re: We can all just throw our Macs away X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:26:37 -0000 Gee, now I can run a slower, buggier, virus infested self destroying OS on my Mac! Hurrah! Back to OS 9 for me (hehe). Next big hack is going to be the killer, though -- the software work-around to run OS X on a PC! Now that I could go for! Note to the uninitiated -- I have NEVER had a board or component failure on a Mac (up to 15 years old) other than on monitor blowing and a dead MB from repeated lightening strikes on my phone line, and in that case I only lost the serial ports, everything else works fine! Peter
