I've heard this claim that electic cars can serve as a energy source
during demand peaks. But is any of the infrastructure to do this even past
the theory stage?

The idea being there are a lot of EVs that are sitting around, plugged
in, and all that stored energy could be used to help meet energy demand
spikes on the grid.

How does the electic utility ask your car for its energy? Is any EV
actually capable of delivering energy back to the grid via its charging
socket, or is this a new requirement to be imposed on manufacturers
(adding to the price of the vehicle)?

What if I need to go somewhere at 6pm but I can't because my car's
batteries have just been drained by the late afternoon electrical demand
peak? Maybe I won't plug in my car until 9 or 10pm, just to avoid that
potential hassle.

It seems there are a lot of assumptions about things and capabilities
that don't yet exist, as well as possible expectations that people won't
behave in their own self interest.

Allan

Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> writes:

> I dont think this is much of an issue. Most of the charging occurs at off
> peak times. It can also be scheduled to do so. Batteries can also be
> employed, including car batteries, to manage the load. And power
> infrastructure can also be upgraded, which is long overdue anyway in many
> areas, and already being reviewed due to forest fires. Solar is pretty good
> here and we often pay AZ to take it, so some daytime demand would actually
> be good.
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 10:35 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Where will they get the power to charge all those electric cars?  Do we
>> know that those power plants and distribution infrastructure will be
>> cleaner than IC cars?
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020, 07:50 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> > California is banning sales of new gas-powered cars by 2035.
>> >
>> > Gov. Gavin Newsom, who has made urgent calls this year for sweeping
>> > actions to curb carbon emissions as massive wildfires have devastated the
>> > West Coast, signed an order Wednesday aimed at helping to phase out
>> > combustion vehicles in the nation’s most populous state. The measure
>> > targets ending the sale of new gasoline- and diesel-powered passenger
>> cars
>> > in California by 2035. The Democratic governor said transitioning to
>> > zero-emissions vehicles would significantly reduce the state’s greenhouse
>> > gas output, about half of which comes from transportation. Currently,
>> less
>> > than 10% of all new vehicle sales in the state are electric. A leading
>> > auto-manufacturing lobbying group voiced support for expanding electric
>> > offerings but called for more consumer incentives and infrastructure
>> > investments to boost demand.
>> >
>> >
>> > --FT
>> > Sent from iPhone

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