I have done regular maintenance on these beasts and it’s an all day job. Think oil changes with 55 gallon drums.
-D > On Jan 2, 2021, at 10:50 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > I always thought I should build a "rat rod" powered by the "tiny" 24V71, > just to put that crowd in its proper place. > > [image: image.png] > Or, perhaps the even larger 24V120 > Just so you could do torque burnouts to impress the crowds.... > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 6:25 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> And don’t forget the 24V71. Definitely aren’t going to crank that one by >> hand… >> >> -D >> >>> On Jan 2, 2021, at 8:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Thank you. >>> Definition of "Ornery" ... 8V71 Detroit 2 stroke, with the mechanical >> fuel >>> rack out of trim, Minus 12 F, with about 20 knots of icy wind blowing on >>> you, and the primary and secondary fuel filters full of gelled fuel. >>> >>> You replace both filters with new, fill them with fresh heated fuel >> [hedge >>> your bets however you can] Wrestle a pair of 24 volt batteries out of >> the >>> battery bay at 90 lbs each, then wrestle a fresh charged set in place [90 >>> lbs each, again], then crank until they are dead and find the starter is >>> smoking really bad... >>> >>> Pull the starter, replace it with a new one you just paid $900.00 for >> while >>> laying on frozen ground with sleet and snow blowing on you, wrestle the >> now >>> dead batteries out of the electrical bay, wrestle a fresh set in..... >> [this >>> is getting old, and I'm getting cold].... crank again.... Or.... >>> Remove the 3/8 pipe plug in the fuel filter fixture between primary and >>> secondary filter, install barbed fitting, plumb in an aux electric pump, >>> drop the pump pickup hose in a 5 gal can of warmed fuel. force prime the >>> engine system... hit start and listen to the big diesel start to rumble, >>> then stagger, then smooth out.... Ahhhhhhhhhhhh.... what a relief it >> is... >>> >>> Detroit engine numbering system ... 8= Number of cylinders, V= >>> configuration, ie V8, V12, V16,.... 71 = Number of cubic inches >>> displacement for each cylinder... thus... 8V71 >>> No... you can't crank it by hand... ;)) >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 3:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Detroit Diesels, especially the 71 series, are notoriously difficult to >>>> bleed. Don’t ask me how I know. I totally understand Grant’s desire to >> make >>>> the process easier. >>>> >>>> -D >>>> >>>>> On Jan 2, 2021, at 4:38 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> No charge ... :<)))) >>>>> Hope it helps save frustration and starters / batteries. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 1:49 PM OK Don via Mercedes < >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ha! A boost pump like in a fuel injected aircraft - I should have >>>> thought >>>>>> of this years ago! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 8:35 PM G Mann via Mercedes < >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Before you do the next fuel filter change, spend a few bucks and get >>>> one >>>>>> of >>>>>>> these [or one like it] and plumb it into the fuel supply line just at >>>> the >>>>>>> fuel filter. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> https://www.amazon.com/Electric-Transfer-Universal-Pressure-2-5-4psi/dp/B07JPDZC4M/ref=pd_lpo_263_img_1/147-4172102-4367701?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07JPDZC4M&pd_rd_r=ba046a97-4646-46fe-9cc8-c5b175ac0b63&pd_rd_w=WDi6Z&pd_rd_wg=dfFZX&pf_rd_p=7b36d496-f366-4631-94d3-61b87b52511b&pf_rd_r=F6NYYHG3X997R9HDT12Z&psc=1&refRID=F6NYYHG3X997R9HDT12Z >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Put a switch on it so you control the pump, and prime the filter all >>>> the >>>>>>> way to the injection pump, crack the line nuts at the injectors and >> use >>>>>> the >>>>>>> cheap pump to push fuel to the injectors, ie, prime the system... >> your >>>>>>> crank time will be reduced to zip, you will save the cost of a >> starter >>>>>> down >>>>>>> the road, and the pump, if sized right can set in the system since >> fuel >>>>>>> will flow through it if it's not powered, or, you can simply >> disconnect >>>>>> it, >>>>>>> and reconnect the supply line. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've been using this system for 20 years to "assist" fuel filter >>>> changes >>>>>> on >>>>>>> large displacement Detroit powered trucks and buses I've owned which >>>> are >>>>>>> notorious for being very hard to re-prime, once you open the fuel >>>> system. >>>>>>> At $12 each... plus a few feet of fuel line and clamps.. the little >>>> pumps >>>>>>> have saved hours of aggravation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 4:15 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you have to crank the engine for a minute continuously? What >> about >>>>>>>> doing it in shorter intervals until it starts? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> writes: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yeah, you’re not alone. I remember my first one and how much I had >> to >>>>>>>> crank on that beast (probably in excess of two minutes, total) >> before >>>>>> it >>>>>>>> began to fire. I was convinced I was going to torch the starter. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -D >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 1, 2021, at 4:20 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < >>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> probably would’ve been easier if the engine was at temperature, >> and >>>>>> I >>>>>>>> wasn’t such a scaredy-cat baby I’m cranking it so long. Once I >> cracked >>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> fittings and fuel showed up it took right off. >>>>>>>>>> I took the power washer to it and blew some more of the flaky old >>>>>>> Macco >>>>>>>> paint off of it. Wiped it down, wipedvthe inside out, cleaned the >>>>>> windows >>>>>>>> and then took it for about a 5 mile spin in town and on the >>>> interstate, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> I never cease to be amazed on how awesome this car is. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bob R >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 1, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes < >>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I always changed the fuel filter or did any other injector work >>>>>> on a >>>>>>>> hot engine -- cranks much faster and uses a lot less battery power. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> OK Don >>>>>> >>>>>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >>>>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >>>>>> >>>>>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >>>>>> Wernher >>>>>> Von Braun >>>>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >>>>>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >>>>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>> >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > <image.png>_______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
