Thank you. Definition of "Ornery" ... 8V71 Detroit 2 stroke, with the mechanical fuel rack out of trim, Minus 12 F, with about 20 knots of icy wind blowing on you, and the primary and secondary fuel filters full of gelled fuel.
You replace both filters with new, fill them with fresh heated fuel [hedge your bets however you can] Wrestle a pair of 24 volt batteries out of the battery bay at 90 lbs each, then wrestle a fresh charged set in place [90 lbs each, again], then crank until they are dead and find the starter is smoking really bad... Pull the starter, replace it with a new one you just paid $900.00 for while laying on frozen ground with sleet and snow blowing on you, wrestle the now dead batteries out of the electrical bay, wrestle a fresh set in..... [this is getting old, and I'm getting cold].... crank again.... Or.... Remove the 3/8 pipe plug in the fuel filter fixture between primary and secondary filter, install barbed fitting, plumb in an aux electric pump, drop the pump pickup hose in a 5 gal can of warmed fuel. force prime the engine system... hit start and listen to the big diesel start to rumble, then stagger, then smooth out.... Ahhhhhhhhhhhh.... what a relief it is... Detroit engine numbering system ... 8= Number of cylinders, V= configuration, ie V8, V12, V16,.... 71 = Number of cubic inches displacement for each cylinder... thus... 8V71 No... you can't crank it by hand... ;)) On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 3:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Detroit Diesels, especially the 71 series, are notoriously difficult to > bleed. Don’t ask me how I know. I totally understand Grant’s desire to make > the process easier. > > -D > > > On Jan 2, 2021, at 4:38 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > > No charge ... :<)))) > > Hope it helps save frustration and starters / batteries. > > > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 1:49 PM OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Ha! A boost pump like in a fuel injected aircraft - I should have > thought > >> of this years ago! > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 8:35 PM G Mann via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Before you do the next fuel filter change, spend a few bucks and get > one > >> of > >>> these [or one like it] and plumb it into the fuel supply line just at > the > >>> fuel filter. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > https://www.amazon.com/Electric-Transfer-Universal-Pressure-2-5-4psi/dp/B07JPDZC4M/ref=pd_lpo_263_img_1/147-4172102-4367701?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07JPDZC4M&pd_rd_r=ba046a97-4646-46fe-9cc8-c5b175ac0b63&pd_rd_w=WDi6Z&pd_rd_wg=dfFZX&pf_rd_p=7b36d496-f366-4631-94d3-61b87b52511b&pf_rd_r=F6NYYHG3X997R9HDT12Z&psc=1&refRID=F6NYYHG3X997R9HDT12Z > >>> > >>> Put a switch on it so you control the pump, and prime the filter all > the > >>> way to the injection pump, crack the line nuts at the injectors and use > >> the > >>> cheap pump to push fuel to the injectors, ie, prime the system... your > >>> crank time will be reduced to zip, you will save the cost of a starter > >> down > >>> the road, and the pump, if sized right can set in the system since fuel > >>> will flow through it if it's not powered, or, you can simply disconnect > >> it, > >>> and reconnect the supply line. > >>> > >>> I've been using this system for 20 years to "assist" fuel filter > changes > >> on > >>> large displacement Detroit powered trucks and buses I've owned which > are > >>> notorious for being very hard to re-prime, once you open the fuel > system. > >>> At $12 each... plus a few feet of fuel line and clamps.. the little > pumps > >>> have saved hours of aggravation. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 4:15 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Do you have to crank the engine for a minute continuously? What about > >>>> doing it in shorter intervals until it starts? > >>>> > >>>> Allan > >>>> > >>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> writes: > >>>> > >>>>> Yeah, you’re not alone. I remember my first one and how much I had to > >>>> crank on that beast (probably in excess of two minutes, total) before > >> it > >>>> began to fire. I was convinced I was going to torch the starter. > >>>>> > >>>>> -D > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Jan 1, 2021, at 4:20 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < > >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> probably would’ve been easier if the engine was at temperature, and > >> I > >>>> wasn’t such a scaredy-cat baby I’m cranking it so long. Once I cracked > >>> the > >>>> fittings and fuel showed up it took right off. > >>>>>> I took the power washer to it and blew some more of the flaky old > >>> Macco > >>>> paint off of it. Wiped it down, wipedvthe inside out, cleaned the > >> windows > >>>> and then took it for about a 5 mile spin in town and on the > interstate, > >>> and > >>>> I never cease to be amazed on how awesome this car is. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Bob R > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Jan 1, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes < > >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I always changed the fuel filter or did any other injector work > >> on a > >>>> hot engine -- cranks much faster and uses a lot less battery power. > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________ > >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>> > >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>>> > >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> OK Don > >> > >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain > >> > >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > >> Wernher > >> Von Braun > >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg > >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
