The terms LP and Propane are used interchangeably, But technically, propane is a one particular gas molecule while LP usually contains several different gas molecules. But they all burn just fine. Compared to natural gas, LP is liquid (much denser) at relatively low pressures. Compressed natural gas must be stored under much higher pressures (thousands of psi). One drawback of LP (vs CNG) is that LP is heavier than air and can accumulate on low places (like a basement or bilge of a boat). LP prices tend to track the price of gasoline unless you buy a lot at a time. The delivery trucks and personnel are a large part of the cost of selling residential LP.
-----Original Message----- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of OK Don via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 7:00 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: OK Don <okd...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard I need to do the same, but there will be a bunch of re-wiring to be done. Our system is a mess form historical add-ons and no requirement to follow codes. Is LP and propane the same thing? On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 5:37 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I would like to get a whole home backup generator and run it off > propane, and also run a line out to the shop for the heaters there. > Maybe even replace the stove/oven with propane instead of electric > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 14, 2021, at 5:11 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Power was out here from about 0700 to noon, probably caused by an > > ice > storm. I was unaware of that until I got to my kitchen and heard the > generator running. That (15KW Generac) LP-fired standby generator was > nice to have then but there are costs. > > > > I think the equipment was about $3500 (in 2005) but the install was > > part > of a bigger project so I don't have a number for that. LP is pretty > clean but I still do an annual oil and filter change. The start > battery has died several times without much warning and battery acid > damaged allowed the case to rust. I'm using a Battery Minder now, maybe that > will help. > > > > At very light load the output frequency is just over 63 Hz which > > causes > many UPS systems to revert to battery power (beep-beep-beep) and > deplete the battery; APC Smart UPS are more tolerant. > > > > I have an underground 500 gal LP tank (which only holds 400 gal) > > that > should be good for a couple of days. An above-ground thank would be > cheaper and would let ne switch LP suppliers; but SWMBO said no to > above-ground. > > > > Overall, I have no complaints but frankly, the few recent power > > outages > didn't justify the expense. However, long power outages were very > common previously and SWMBO would not be able to manage a manual > system (I traveled for work in those days). > > > > For short outages, an 8-10 KW (electric start) gasoline generator > > should > do the job much cheaper. The plug-in output cord can be wired to a > power panel with a mechanical interlock fairly inexpensively (if code allows). > The main drawback of this setup, IMO, is storing gasoline and keeping > it fresh. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes > > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 4:27 PM > > To: Okie Benz <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard > > > > It does make life far easier and less likely to be interrupted. Big > > up > front cost, though, if you do it right. > > > > -D > > > >> On Feb 14, 2021, at 4:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Being that we are total electric here, I should get a backup > >> generator > one of these day. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>>> On Feb 14, 2021, at 3:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> That reminds me, it’s about time to check the propane tank for my > >>> annual fill for the standby generator… > >>> > >>> -D shoveling sun and a little bit of rain today in the near 80s > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Feb 14, 2021, at 4:12 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Blizzard is proceeding, temp is 7 outside with wind chill is -10, > >>>> snow blowing outside. Heat pump pretty much runs non stop. Over > >>>> the > last 30 minutes the power has been going out off and on. No good. I > may end up having to haul in some firewood and firing up the > fireplace/insert. It would Most definitely cut down on the heat pump > useable but by the time you pay for firewood I don’t think it would be > any cheaper. I keep firewood around for use in the case of emergency. > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________ > >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>> > >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>>> > >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." 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