Check code with county building inspector, they will probably tell you over the
phone. My installation is a combination of flexible copper tubing (w/ brass
fittings) and iron pipe, just at the generator.
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From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 8:17 PM
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Cc: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard
I'm debating what to put in the farmhouse. I'd like to go propane but not sure
that the copper pipes I'm used to still meet code. My parents house has a
copper line but that was put in back in 1980...
What ever I do will almost certainly be a used stove (probably gas). I'm not
refurbishing an 1890s farmhouse and making it look like a modern condo.
-Curt
On Sunday, February 14, 2021, 6:37:42 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
I would like to get a whole home backup generator and run it off propane, and
also run a line out to the shop for the heaters there. Maybe even replace the
stove/oven with propane instead of electric
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> On Feb 14, 2021, at 5:11 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Power was out here from about 0700 to noon, probably caused by an ice
> storm. I was unaware of that until I got to my kitchen and heard the
> generator running. That (15KW Generac) LP-fired standby generator was nice
> to have then but there are costs.
>
> I think the equipment was about $3500 (in 2005) but the install was
> part of a bigger project so I don't have a number for that. LP is pretty
> clean but I still do an annual oil and filter change. The start battery has
> died several times without much warning and battery acid damaged allowed the
> case to rust. I'm using a Battery Minder now, maybe that will help.
>
> At very light load the output frequency is just over 63 Hz which
> causes many UPS systems to revert to battery power (beep-beep-beep) and
> deplete the battery; APC Smart UPS are more tolerant.
>
> I have an underground 500 gal LP tank (which only holds 400 gal) that
> should be good for a couple of days. An above-ground thank would be cheaper
> and would let ne switch LP suppliers; but SWMBO said no to above-ground.
>
> Overall, I have no complaints but frankly, the few recent power outages
> didn't justify the expense. However, long power outages were very common
> previously and SWMBO would not be able to manage a manual system (I traveled
> for work in those days).
>
> For short outages, an 8-10 KW (electric start) gasoline generator should do
> the job much cheaper. The plug-in output cord can be wired to a power panel
> with a mechanical interlock fairly inexpensively (if code allows). The main
> drawback of this setup, IMO, is storing gasoline and keeping it fresh.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 4:27 PM
> To: Okie Benz <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard
>
> It does make life far easier and less likely to be interrupted. Big up front
> cost, though, if you do it right.
>
> -D
>
>> On Feb 14, 2021, at 4:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Being that we are total electric here, I should get a backup generator one
>> of these day.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Feb 14, 2021, at 3:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> That reminds me, it’s about time to check the propane tank for my
>>> annual fill for the standby generator…
>>>
>>> -D shoveling sun and a little bit of rain today in the near 80s
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Feb 14, 2021, at 4:12 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Blizzard is proceeding, temp is 7 outside with wind chill is -10,
>>>> snow blowing outside. Heat pump pretty much runs non stop. Over the last
>>>> 30 minutes the power has been going out off and on. No good. I may end up
>>>> having to haul in some firewood and firing up the fireplace/insert. It
>>>> would Most definitely cut down on the heat pump useable but by the time
>>>> you pay for firewood I don’t think it would be any cheaper. I keep
>>>> firewood around for use in the case of emergency.
>>>>
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