For those of you who fly commercial airlines, this video will give you
solid answers on backup systems, as well as what happened in the Scully
incident.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9yz6Gd216o

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 10:25 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> American?
>
> So much for any connections.
>
> -D
>
> > On Sep 20, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well the flight is now delayed an hour while they “secure” the APU.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Sep 20, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Very rare to lose both engines in flight. So rare as "not supposed to
> happen in the service life of the aircraft" if it were to happen it would
> be from something like contaminated fuel, a significant maintenance error,
> or massive foreign object ingestion in both engines. If an engine flames
> out at altitude I believe the windmilling from the airstream gives it
> enough rotation for a relight, though I stand to be corrected. Aircraft can
> generally depart with the APU inop so it is not critical for any
> anticipated in-flight emergencies.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Well they just rolled the air cart over and fired up the engines.
> Without an APU one engine can start the other, but with both dead mid air
> and no APU, I would only hope the airflow would be enough to spin them up.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:40 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't think they would need the starter to do an airstart if the
> engine is spinning.
> >>>>
> >>>> I was on a flight once that had the BSOD on the control system, they
> rebooted the whole airplane 3X (start, shutdown, start...) then put us off
> to go find another airplane.
> >>>>
> >>>> --FT
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 9/20/21 11:34 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>>> Of course they can start the engines with the ground APU but I
> assume if they lost both engines in flight they would have no way to start
> them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Kaleb Striplin <ka...@striplin.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Never had this happen before. We pushed back, tug unhooked and
> plane lost all power, completely dead. No lights no AC no engines. I
> immediately think they lost the APU. Sure enough pilot comes on and says we
> lost the “backup” power to start the engines. Now being towed back to the
> gate. Guess we will need a jumpstart.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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