How do you install insulation in the crawl space? Do they attach it under the 
sun floor between the joists somehow?

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> On Mar 6, 2022, at 12:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> And make sure your home is as efficient as possible, too.
> 
> I’m not discounting the increase in fuel costs by any means, but a lot of 
> times people will only look at the direct expense (of fuel) rather than ways 
> of increasing efficiency.
> 
> For example, at the Flagstaff house we had an energy audit done right out of 
> the gate that showed some glaring efficiency issues that we expected based on 
> our survey of the house when we bought it. The house is about 2,000 sf, wood 
> frame construction from 1975 on a crawl space. The floor of the house was not 
> insulated, and never had been since it was built. Blow-in insulation in the 
> attic space was a mess from being moved around during several renovations as 
> well as having settled. In fact, it was so bad in some spots it caused ice 
> dams on the roof that resulted in ceiling damage in one part of the house, 
> yet the PO didn’t do anything about it.
> 
> We took an aggressive approach, which wasn’t cheap, but had insulation 
> installed in the floor/crawl space, the attic insulation straightened out and 
> more blown in, and a blower door test done before and after with any and all 
> gaps or leaks addressed.
> 
> A new furnace was installed, however, this was a choice on our part due to 
> the age of the existing furnace (28+ years) that was in the mid to upper 90% 
> efficiency range. Windows and doors were already good, so no need to do 
> anything there. While they weren't efficiency considerations, we added air 
> conditioning to the house with the new furnace and a mini-split to an 
> addition that was poorly insulated and conditioned.
> 
> Total cost? About $8,000 not including the AC and mini-split. We recovered 
> about $1,000 of those costs in rebates from state, local and Federal rebates 
> and tax credits.
> 
> It will take some years to recover the costs, but the real gain is in the 
> level of comfort that exists in the house. Parts of it were colder than heck, 
> and I can’t even begin to imagine what it was like with no insulation in the 
> floor (we had the insulation work done in September.) The PO installed a wood 
> stove, but we never use it as it’s not necessary.
> 
> The gas bill last month for heating, water heating (demand water heater) and 
> cooking was $93.00. Coldest month of the year so far, and we keep it at a 
> comfortable 68F during the day while turning it down to 66F at night. 
> Ambients can often get down into the single digits at night in the winter at 
> this location, so having that tight envelope with a solid amount of 
> insulation makes the place very efficient.
> 
> For those of us who lived through the energy crunch in the 1970s, the one 
> good thing it did was forced people to look more closely at efficiencies in 
> how we use energy as well as alternatives.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Time to look into alternative heat sources.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/6/2022 11:13 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>>> So what about home heating oil? What happens next winter when I have to 
>>> heat my house? At this rate it is doubtful that prices will normalize by 
>>> then and I go through a full 250 gallon tank of oil during the winter and 
>>> that’s keeping the house at 60 degrees on average. If oil hits $8 per 
>>> gallon by then which is not a stretch then I will be paying $2000 per month 
>>> to heat my house.
>>> 
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>>>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 10:50 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If I am not mistaken, It never got that night the last time.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Did Karl want to start a pool on LA gas prices?
>>>>> $7 a gallon here. I checked and GasBuddy concurs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This will not end well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rick
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