My least favorite "feature" of phones/tablets is the "You get an update right now." whether I'm in the middle of something or not...
-Curt On Monday, April 18, 2022, 02:30:09 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: The issue I have with products like the Tesla is that they can control it without your approval. There are a number of documented instances when the cars changed hands and as a part of that process features were disabled so that the new owner could not access them. You can avoid this by not allowing updates, but that’s a double-edged sword. I own it, it’s mine, the manufacturer should not be able to change things after the fact. -D > On Apr 18, 2022, at 2:18 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > “Sounds a bit like computer guys designing cars didn't consider how long > people keep cars...” > Which is exactly why EVs are disposable and couple this with the fact that > the hugely expensive batteries are relatively short lived. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 18, 2022, at 2:04 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Do you have a source for that? I see that Tesla has issued a big recall for >> screens, they're blaming it on the hard drive that runs the thing. >> >> Sounds a bit like computer guys designing cars didn't consider how long >> people keep cars... >> >> -Curt >> >> >> >> >> On Monday, April 18, 2022, 01:26:37 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> With Teslas the big screen is the middle is programmed to die after a >> certain amount of time. Supposedly it quits working and it’s a software >> thing but the whole assembly has to be replaced. Cars are basically the new >> iPhones. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Absolutely more green to keep using the same product indefinitely. There >>> is no doubt in my mind that an EV will have a max lifespan of 15 years, >>> most 10-12 years. The exceptions will be those few cars owned by people who >>> are willing to spend tens of thousands of dollars on a new battery to keep >>> an obsolete rolling computer on the road. EVs are just NOT green and this >>> is one of just several reasons. Anyone who thinks so is seriously deluded. >>> Does anyone spend a significant amount of money to repair a 10 year old >>> computer or a 3 year old iPhone? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 11:18 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Off topic? >>>> On topic? >>>> >>>> He doesn't discuss Mercedes specially, but let's be honest. If you can >>>> keep a Wxxx on the road for 40 plus years, isn't that more "green" than >>>> buying another car every five or ten years? >>>> >>>> https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=245674 >>>> >>>> It truly pisses me off when I go to repair something, and can't get parts. >>>> >>>> Planned obsolescence isn't green. >>>> >>>> >>>> Rick >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
