New England is serviced by only one natural gas pipeline. Our energy prices can skyrocket during high demand due to limited supply. My opinion is that electricity prices aren't going down and anywhere that net metering is allowed it makes sense to get solar. Panel prices continue to fall, 5 years ago when we first put panels on the camp I was happy with 100w panels for $100. Now I can get open box 260w for $160. I'm debating switching us to 24v and getting 3x 260w panels which will more than triple our generating capacity. Curt
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 1:47 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: It is, sadly. And MA is one of the most progressive. Go figure. -D On May 27, 2022, at 1:21 PM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote: Florida is, after all, the most anti-solar state. Foolishness... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers_wl=ym_sub1=Internal_sub2=Global_YGrowth_sub3=EmailSignature> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 11:04 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: In theory an excellent idea, but in practice it can be dodgy. I say that because our legislature in Florida was able to get a bill passed that phased out net metering for consumers, meaning that if you just sunk $20k-$30k into a solar system that in 2-3 years you weren’t going to get paid for the power you generate, or if you did, it would be a much lower rate that currently required by law. That payback curve was going to get very, very flat. Despite the sway that utilities hold over our legislators, our somewhat psycho governor saw the light and vetoed the bill. Had he not I think things might have gotten quite ugly. -D On May 27, 2022, at 10:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com><mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>> wrote: What you do is run your solar into the grid running your electric meter backwards during the day. This let's you essentially use the grid as a big battery. With the right payment structure you can get paid daytime surge rates and only pay out night time rates to charge your car. Long term plans for the northern estate include 3000w of solar. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 10:20 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes<mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com><mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>> wrote: Putting aside the environmental and international economic and security issues associated with lithium batteries and PV panels, I like the idea of a garage with PV panels to charge your car. Of course you would need storage batteries in your garage to collect and store the electrons from solar photons so you can charge your car at night. The whole process should be on the order of maybe 8% efficient if you’re lucky. --FT Sent from iFōn On May 27, 2022, at 4:31 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com><mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>> wrote: When I first heard of ZEVs, I thought "Oh, you mean Remote Emissions Vehicles". Mitch. On 2022-05-26 17:24, dan penoff.com<http://penoff.com> via Mercedes wrote: And I don’t want to start the back and forth up, but the electricity to charge those batteries has to come from somewhere, and it’s likely generated using fossil fuels at present. So the emissions are going to come from somewhere in the process, just not from a tailpipe on the car in this case. _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com<http://www.okiebenz.com/> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
