Great write up.

Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: June 22, 2022 10:38 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ML350 Motor Mounts

Having now done this twice, once on the ML500 and once on the ML350, it’s 
equally difficult, but not bad.

The mounts are cheap, like $32 or thereabouts from Mercedes. Don’t buy 
aftermarket mounts!

Do the passenger side first, as it’s the easiest.

1.) Take out the fender liner

2.) Remove the nuts from the mount - 1-18mm on the top, 2-16mm on the bottom. 
You can get on the top nut with a ratchet, the bottoms ones with a ratchet and 
some extensions. Make note of the heat shield on the top of the mount, and the 
presence of a flat washer under the top nut.

3.) With a floor or bottle jack, use some 2” x 2” boards to clear the 
crossmember and sway bar to jack up the engine using the oil pan - be sure to 
use a long board to distribute the weight across the pan. Take the plastic 
cover off the engine first, then disconnect the air cleaner outlet to the MAF 
so the engine can move upward. Jack the engine up (gently) until it “tops” out. 
Watch the back of the engine and the coolant reservoir as you do this so you 
don’t break anything.

4.) Disconnect the battery, as you’re working in close proximity to the starter 
and alternator, and there are exposed terminals with battery voltage on them in 
this area. Using a star socket, remove the four bolts holding the engine 
support to the engine.

5.) With the engine support loose, lift the mount out of the frame.

6.) Place the new mount into position, making note of the “Front” marking on 
the mount so that it is facing the front of the vehicle.

7.) Reverse the order of work and you’re in business.

Differences between the right and left side mounts:

1.) The left side mount requires the removal of a heat shield as soon as you 
remove the fender liner. Three 10mm nuts and the heat shield lifts out the top 
of the engine compartment.

2.) The bottom nuts on the left engine mount are a little tougher to get to. 
You’ll need a 3/8 universal and some long extensions to get to them. There is a 
hose in the way of one, but it can be easily pushed out of the way.

3.) An 18mm ratcheting box end wrench is a big time saver in removing the top 
nut. It’s in a tight space and will take a while with a standard offset 
combination wrench. No room for a ratchet/socket on this one.

4.) The engine support star bolts are harder to get to on the left side, but 
can be done with a 3/8” universal and some extensions. There is an additional 
star bolt that goes through the AC compressor and into the engine support. This 
has to be removed in order for the support to move around and clear the mount.

An hour for the right side is about average and two hours for the left if 
you’re not in a hurry.

-D

> On Jun 22, 2022, at 8:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> I think the mounts on the 05ML500 are shot, probably what the clunking is 
> I’ve been hearing. Sounds like a fun job.
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
>> On Jun 22, 2022, at 10:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> For those who have done motor mounts on older MBs, later model motor mounts 
>> are a major challenge. The W163 is especially unpleasant because you have to 
>> replace them form the wheel well, not underneath the car.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>> On Jun 22, 2022, at 6:35 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good work.
>>>
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>>
>>>>> On Jun 22, 2022, at 9:16 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Did the left side this afternoon, under two hours from start to finish, 
>>>> not bad. I did much the same on this one as I did on the right side - I 
>>>> loosened the engine support that sits on the top of the mount to get 
>>>> enough room to R&R the mount. Made it pretty simple, not nearly the pig of 
>>>> a job it is when I did it on my last ML.
>>>>
>>>> Left side mount was totally trashed. Completely collapsed and the top bolt 
>>>> and anchor was torn away from the rubber, so it was resting directly on 
>>>> the steel frame of the mount.
>>>>
>>>> Car idles like “buttah” now. All I have left to do is order some of the 
>>>> plastic nuts that hold the fender liner in place, as the last person who 
>>>> was in there decided that they weren’t important and left some of them 
>>>> off. Idiot.
>>>>
>>>> -D
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