Exactly my point. At that time in my career I didn’t want to bounce around for a better deal unless I was satisfied it would be a long term gig. It’s also a PITA to be changing horses after a while, you always lose something in the deal no matter what. Might not be tangible, but the only way you gain is by sticking around for a while.
-D > On Aug 15, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Yes I have probably 20 years to go. I am at the stage where I don’t want to > just hop jobs just for the sake of chance and will soon be in the territory > of possible age discrimination where they prefer to hire some young kid > instead of me. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 15, 2022, at 12:30 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Some excellent points, Jim. One thing to consider is how close you are to >> an exit strategy, that is, retirement. Kaleb’s still got some years before >> he can start working full time at Okie Acres making yummy Maine treats with >> the Missus and getting all of that German iron back into shape once he gets >> his shop sorted out. You gotta be in it for the long game at this point, so >> that’s consideration as well that can often overshadow personal >> preferences, such as travel. I did much the same when I took the job back at >> the County in Florida over the job in Flagstaff - less commuting and more >> money/better benefits, even though it’s something I don’t enjoy doing and >> never will. That could easily change and I could flip-flop again, but it >> would be a final move that would force me to make (permanent) changes in my >> life I’m ready for but Mrs. Dan isn’t quite up for at this point. It’s all >> about compromise, isn’t it? >> >> I do miss the interaction with my co-workers, as we are a tightly knit team >> who have worked together closely over nearly 10 years with common interests, >> more friends than co-workers. That being said, I like not having to spend >> money for gas, food and clothing, as well as the use of my time to commute, >> all of which are higher on the hierarchy of needs for me than personal >> interaction. We make up for it by getting together for lunch at the office >> maybe once a month. >> >> -D >> >>> On Aug 15, 2022, at 1:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> I retired during the pandemic because I missed the human interaction with >>> my co-workers. That outweighed any financial considerations. >>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 12:59 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Your current company has shown their stripes. They are in an outsourcing >>>> mood, driven by greed. I have never seen an outsourcing drive that >>>> resulted >>>> in happier customers. Usually quite the opposite. If loyalty was any >>>> factor in >>>> their planning, they wouldn't have been outsourcing. That, combined with >>>> your >>>> almost-left, means you can probably count on somewhat less than zero there. >>>> Almost all companies basically have zero loyalty baked into them, it's >>>> virtually >>>> guaranteed by the accountant-in-charge mentality that rules these days. >>>> Family companies could value loyalty. I work for one, they do, and it's >>>> excellent. >>>> But, one shake-up in the family and that could change. It was almost sold >>>> last >>>> year, and overnight would have been part of a corporate umbrella, but owner >>>> found he just couldn't do it. So, reprieved. >>>> >>>> My last company they talked about loyalty and how valuable our small office >>>> was. (Since we'd invented a major part of their product portfolio.) But, >>>> there >>>> were continuing small signs that made us nervous. Yes, we were >>>> 'valuable'... >>>> up until the day they announced they were closing our office entirely, >>>> buh-bye. >>>> We were, arguably, their best people. We were, arguably, their >>>> least-expensive >>>> domestic resources, due to location in flyover territory. We were, not >>>> arguably, >>>> their office with the lowest turnover, and thus the greatest knowledge >>>> retention. >>>> But none of that mattered once corporate politics and musical chairs got >>>> started. >>>> They split up our stuff between India, who couldn't retain anybody long >>>> enough >>>> to even complete the training, and a bunch of silicon valley newbies whose >>>> questions in meetings beforehand made me wonder about their basic >>>> competency. >>>> (Bunch of 'did you try turning it off and then back on again' script >>>> kiddies trying to >>>> take over network backbone gear with five-nines SLAs on redundant hardware? >>>> It is to laugh.) >>>> >>>> I and a few others were offered work-from-home deals. I also had a lateral >>>> move on the table, working for the theme park doing _very_ different >>>> things. >>>> Also work-from-home. Hmm, same pay same conditions. One for the same >>>> clueless lying assholes, and one for a local family-owned company with an >>>> excellent reputation. Wasn't even a contest, I didn't even look at the >>>> secondary >>>> benefits, and never looked back. >>>> >>>> So, which people do you trust more? Money is only one of the factors in >>>> having a good life. >>>> >>>> If I were offered 2x my current salary, but would have to travel 3 weeks >>>> out of >>>> the month, I would not take it. Wouldn't even consider it. Just sayin'. >>>> I know >>>> what's important to me. >>>> >>>> -- Jim >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
