Maybe I need to approach my dealer about some sort of price deal if I steer a 
lot of my parts business to them.  I have dealt with them for many years. Last 
time I was in there I had not been in for years but the old timers remembered 
me. 

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> On Sep 1, 2022, at 11:12 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Depending on what the part is, the discount model that MB of Covington uses 
> usually makes it a wash or slightly less than my local dealer due to sales 
> taxes. However, I discussed this with my dealer a few weeks ago and they said 
> they would match Covington’s price for me, so in the future I’ll price check 
> using Covington and then go to my local dealer.
> 
> Maybe it’s an anomaly, but my dealer empowers their employees to make the 
> deal to get a sale. That’s really great for both of us, because they get the 
> business and I get the best price.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 9:00 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I would probably buy a lot more dealer parts if my dealer was not a rip off. 
>> The shipping from the online places usually ends up being too much. 
>> 
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>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 10:22 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think the point is, “How many of those parts are you buying from the 
>>> dealer?” OEM won’t make a difference.
>>> 
>>> I mean, I even buy my soft parts such as filters and such for the dealer in 
>>> most cases. They’re maybe 10% more, but it’s an OE part, which certainly 
>>> has value.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> My goal is not to keep a beater on the road as cheap as possible although 
>>>> some cars that come they might fit that description. All of my drivers are 
>>>> properly maintained with OE or OEM parts. 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 9:15 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is not that they "don't care about" them, its simply a matter of 
>>>>> suppliers
>>>>> no longer willing to make the parts and not finding a cost effective
>>>>> replacement.  If there is a demand, they will try to find a solution.
>>>>> They're a business, not a parts charity.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Next complaint will be that reworked replacement parts are too expensive.
>>>>> It takes significant resources to manufacture any parts for any car, new 
>>>>> or
>>>>> old.  Engineers, purchasing, business cases, testing, quality control, raw
>>>>> materials sourcing, tooling, etc.  They don't just walk up to a machine 
>>>>> and
>>>>> push the "make me door seals for a 123" button.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Think about how you buy your parts...are you supporting the system by
>>>>> buying from MB genuine?  Or are you looking for the cheapest possible
>>>>> source regardless of quality?  Then complaining when MB support is gone...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Owners of the 60s cars are happy to pay for parts as the value of their
>>>>> cars are increasing.  MB responds by making parts available.  (Like 4.5
>>>>> engine mounts, NLA for a few years, now available again with a new
>>>>> supplier).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 90s car support brings up another issue:  electronics.  If the chips don't
>>>>> exist to buy anymore, its simply impossible to make the parts.  Period.
>>>>> But as the value and demand for these cars increases on the collector
>>>>> market, you will see more solutions appear.  If your goal is to keep your
>>>>> beater on the road as long as possible and cheap as possible, you're not
>>>>> the target market for these solutions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 10:03 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How long ago was that? Now days you can’t even get door seals for 123
>>>>>> coupes. A lot of 124 parts are now unavailable. Many of the ACC vacuum 
>>>>>> pods
>>>>>> are NLA. As previously mentioned you can no longer get 123 oil coolers or
>>>>>> 126 SDL radiators. Vin coded ignition tumblers for 123 124 and 126 are 
>>>>>> NLA.
>>>>>> Perhaps they want to support very old cars or very new cars, but middle
>>>>>> aged 123-126 they don’t care about.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:57 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Very true.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When I was “restoring” the 65 220SEb I was constantly amazed at the
>>>>>> parts I could still get from Mercedes, and in most cases, how relatively
>>>>>> inexpensive they were. For instance, I could still get a lot of rubber
>>>>>> parts, both seals and suspension. A full set of bushings for the rear 
>>>>>> swing
>>>>>> arms were less than $100. New front/rear springs, $110/each.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The left front spring was really bad on that car, so bad that corner of
>>>>>> the car was a good 2” low. Dealer checks on them and none in stock, but 
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> NLA. Turns out, they had run out of inventory and were waiting on a new
>>>>>> order. So they were still sourcing these things over 50 year after the 
>>>>>> car
>>>>>> was built!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -D
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:27 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Try getting parts for 50s and 60s cars.  You'd be amazed how easy it 
>>>>>>>> is.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You have to be creative in this business to find parts, but having a
>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>> like the classic center is pretty amazing overall.  It's pretty
>>>>>> remarkable
>>>>>>>> what they do have.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> For example, I just bought a vacuum pod for the distributor of a 300SEL
>>>>>>>> 3.5.  Pretty obscure part, still available, under $100.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Is it perfect, no of course not, but be thankful they put so much 
>>>>>>>> effort
>>>>>>>> into it, its still pretty special.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jaime
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 7:31 PM David Bruckmann via Mercedes <
>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I agree re; NLA parts. And not just obscure stuff, but for example the
>>>>>>>>> window regulator kit (the little nylon disc and clip) is NLA. Which is
>>>>>>>>> nuts.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Kaleb Striplin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> But they do not have anything that a normal dealer could not order?
>>>>>>>>> Correct? The number of common parts that are becoming NLA is alarming.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2022, at 4:32 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ?The classic center is alive and well, and even just moved into a new
>>>>>>>>> (much
>>>>>>>>>> larger) facility inside the Long Beach VPC.  Tom retired months ago,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> hes still active online.  I get parts deliveries all the time from
>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>>>>> still excellent service and loads of parts in stock.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Jaime
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 4:16 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I have not heard that. I don?t think the classic center really does
>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>> anymore anyway does it? They only have the same parts any other
>>>>>> dealer
>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>> as far as I know.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2022, at 3:14 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes <
>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ?I may be late to the party, but I recently learned that Tom Hanson
>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>> retired from the MB Classic Center.
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