The part is sourced from MB. Only way to get a new one. But it is “virgin “ and has no programming. You have to get MB or some third party to clone it.
--FT Sent from iFōn > On Sep 1, 2022, at 1:21 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Good point. However, MB of Covington does have a phone number and will talk > to you about parts and applications over the phone. > > Interesting that they consider the conductor plate a theft relevant part. > I’ll have to ask my dealer guys/gals about this. I wonder how FCP buys this > if that’s truly the case? > > -D > >> On Sep 1, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> So this is an interesting example. Just as a random trial I went to >> mbofcovington.comn parts page and selected 2008 E350 "Base" model as my car >> and tried to find a transmission conductor plate. I'm sure it's in there, >> but I could not find it by searching for "conductor plate" or "conductor" or >> by the menu navigation. >> >> On FCPEuro I found it easily by selecting that vehicle and searhing for >> "conductor plate" and it lists it as "Genuine Mercedes" for $949. >> >> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-transmission-conductor-plate-genuine-mercedes-0002702600 >> >> Then I went back to MB Covington and searched for the SKU number >> (000270260080) that FCP Euro gave me. It came up with an entry called >> "Automatic Transmission Valve Body" that "Does not fit your 2008 Mercedes >> Benz E350" and is also "This item is considered a theft relevant part and is >> not available for purchase online. Please contact your local dealer for more >> information." List price is $369 for this "remanufactured" part. >> >> So, as a non-professional customer, the FCPEuro experience is way better. >> I'm not even sure I'm finding the right part on MB Covington. >> >> >>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, at 11:40, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> I totally understand this. >>> >>> However, if you’re buying online, there are any number of RevParts >>> dealers (dealers who sell parts online) that sell with very good >>> discount models making OE parts pretty darned cheap, relatively >>> speaking. And I’m addressing OE parts, not OEM parts that you can buy >>> from a third party seller like FCPEuro. >>> >>> For example, I bought the driver’s side exterior mirror guts for my >>> ML550. List was around $500, my dealer’s price to me was around $375, >>> MB of Covington wanted $250 + about $17 to ship. Easy decision. >>> >>> Same with a right side exterior mirror cover. List about $300, my >>> dealer about $200, MB of Covington was like $140 + $17 shipping. >>> >>> Dealers use different discount structures. Some discount “down” from >>> MSRP, or list price. Others, like Covington, mark “up" from their cost. >>> As cost varies wildly depending on the part and other factors you can >>> often get a much better deal working with an online dealer like MB of >>> Covington who marks up from cost. >>> >>> -D >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 9:24 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> All well and good if you have a dealership where you can walk in and talk >>>> to people. I am 75 miles from an MB dealer, and it's not anywere I go on a >>>> regular basis otherwise. >>>> >>>> I used to buy parts from Rusty back in the day. I think he had a dealer >>>> relationship where he could get OE parts when WorldPac didn't carry the >>>> OEM equivalent? These days I use FCPEuro because the website and service >>>> is great, they warranty everything they sell for life, and they actually >>>> honor that warranty without me jumping through hoops. If FCPEuro didn't >>>> have a part, I guess I'd start looking at dealer websites. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, at 11:11, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>>>> Depending on what the part is, the discount model that MB of Covington >>>>> uses usually makes it a wash or slightly less than my local dealer due >>>>> to sales taxes. However, I discussed this with my dealer a few weeks >>>>> ago and they said they would match Covington’s price for me, so in the >>>>> future I’ll price check using Covington and then go to my local dealer. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe it’s an anomaly, but my dealer empowers their employees to make >>>>> the deal to get a sale. That’s really great for both of us, because >>>>> they get the business and I get the best price. >>>>> >>>>> -D >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 9:00 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I would probably buy a lot more dealer parts if my dealer was not a rip >>>>>> off. The shipping from the online places usually ends up being too much. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 10:22 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think the point is, “How many of those parts are you buying from the >>>>>>> dealer?” OEM won’t make a difference. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I mean, I even buy my soft parts such as filters and such for the >>>>>>> dealer in most cases. They’re maybe 10% more, but it’s an OE part, >>>>>>> which certainly has value. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -D >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My goal is not to keep a beater on the road as cheap as possible >>>>>>>> although some cars that come they might fit that description. All of >>>>>>>> my drivers are properly maintained with OE or OEM parts. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 9:15 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes >>>>>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is not that they "don't care about" them, its simply a matter of >>>>>>>>> suppliers >>>>>>>>> no longer willing to make the parts and not finding a cost effective >>>>>>>>> replacement. If there is a demand, they will try to find a solution. >>>>>>>>> They're a business, not a parts charity. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Next complaint will be that reworked replacement parts are too >>>>>>>>> expensive. >>>>>>>>> It takes significant resources to manufacture any parts for any car, >>>>>>>>> new or >>>>>>>>> old. Engineers, purchasing, business cases, testing, quality >>>>>>>>> control, raw >>>>>>>>> materials sourcing, tooling, etc. They don't just walk up to a >>>>>>>>> machine and >>>>>>>>> push the "make me door seals for a 123" button. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Think about how you buy your parts...are you supporting the system by >>>>>>>>> buying from MB genuine? Or are you looking for the cheapest possible >>>>>>>>> source regardless of quality? Then complaining when MB support is >>>>>>>>> gone... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Owners of the 60s cars are happy to pay for parts as the value of >>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>> cars are increasing. MB responds by making parts available. (Like >>>>>>>>> 4.5 >>>>>>>>> engine mounts, NLA for a few years, now available again with a new >>>>>>>>> supplier). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 90s car support brings up another issue: electronics. If the chips >>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>> exist to buy anymore, its simply impossible to make the parts. >>>>>>>>> Period. >>>>>>>>> But as the value and demand for these cars increases on the collector >>>>>>>>> market, you will see more solutions appear. If your goal is to keep >>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>> beater on the road as long as possible and cheap as possible, you're >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> the target market for these solutions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 10:03 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> How long ago was that? Now days you can’t even get door seals for 123 >>>>>>>>>> coupes. A lot of 124 parts are now unavailable. Many of the ACC >>>>>>>>>> vacuum pods >>>>>>>>>> are NLA. As previously mentioned you can no longer get 123 oil >>>>>>>>>> coolers or >>>>>>>>>> 126 SDL radiators. Vin coded ignition tumblers for 123 124 and 126 >>>>>>>>>> are NLA. >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps they want to support very old cars or very new cars, but >>>>>>>>>> middle >>>>>>>>>> aged 123-126 they don’t care about. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:57 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Very true. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When I was “restoring” the 65 220SEb I was constantly amazed at the >>>>>>>>>> parts I could still get from Mercedes, and in most cases, how >>>>>>>>>> relatively >>>>>>>>>> inexpensive they were. For instance, I could still get a lot of >>>>>>>>>> rubber >>>>>>>>>> parts, both seals and suspension. A full set of bushings for the >>>>>>>>>> rear swing >>>>>>>>>> arms were less than $100. New front/rear springs, $110/each. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The left front spring was really bad on that car, so bad that >>>>>>>>>>> corner of >>>>>>>>>> the car was a good 2” low. Dealer checks on them and none in stock, >>>>>>>>>> but not >>>>>>>>>> NLA. Turns out, they had run out of inventory and were waiting on a >>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>> order. So they were still sourcing these things over 50 year after >>>>>>>>>> the car >>>>>>>>>> was built! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -D >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:27 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Try getting parts for 50s and 60s cars. You'd be amazed how easy >>>>>>>>>>>> it is. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You have to be creative in this business to find parts, but having >>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> source >>>>>>>>>>>> like the classic center is pretty amazing overall. It's pretty >>>>>>>>>> remarkable >>>>>>>>>>>> what they do have. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> For example, I just bought a vacuum pod for the distributor of a >>>>>>>>>>>> 300SEL >>>>>>>>>>>> 3.5. Pretty obscure part, still available, under $100. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is it perfect, no of course not, but be thankful they put so much >>>>>>>>>>>> effort >>>>>>>>>>>> into it, its still pretty special. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 7:31 PM David Bruckmann via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree re; NLA parts. And not just obscure stuff, but for >>>>>>>>>>>>> example the >>>>>>>>>>>>> window regulator kit (the little nylon disc and clip) is NLA. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Which is >>>>>>>>>>>>> nuts. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kaleb Striplin wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> But they do not have anything that a normal dealer could not >>>>>>>>>>>>> order? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Correct? The number of common parts that are becoming NLA is >>>>>>>>>>>>> alarming. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2022, at 4:32 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?The classic center is alive and well, and even just moved into >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new >>>>>>>>>>>>> (much >>>>>>>>>>>>>> larger) facility inside the Long Beach VPC. Tom retired months >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago, >>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hes still active online. I get parts deliveries all the time >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>> them, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> still excellent service and loads of parts in stock. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 4:16 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not heard that. I don?t think the classic center really >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore anyway does it? They only have the same parts any other >>>>>>>>>> dealer >>>>>>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as far as I know. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2022, at 3:14 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?I may be late to the party, but I recently learned that Tom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hanson >>>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retired from the MB Classic Center. >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Kopchinski >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jaimekop.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Jaime Kopchinski >>>>>>>>> http://www.jaimekop.com/ >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>> >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
