An EV in Flagstaff would make perfect sense. Plenty of sunlight for charging, and the longest possible trip from one side of town to another being maybe 15 miles, if that. Now if you want to go anywhere else an ICE vehicle would be required, as there’s nothing in the way of civilization in a 100 mile radius, if that.
-D > On Oct 12, 2022, at 10:36 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > LA is an excellent example of where EVs make sense. Most people never go > outside of a 5 mile circle anyway so limited range makes no difference. > Unfortunately California had a rectal/cranial inversion when it comes to > electricity production so EVs are going to exacerbate an existing problem. > Maybe if they get to the point that there is a big pv array on every > rooftop... > Curt > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 11:13 PM, Karl Wittnebel via > Mercedes<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I don't know who "they" are and I > have know idea what they want, but here > in LA an electric car already makes a lot of sense for a lot of people. If > the prices ever come down, they will be the best option for maybe 70% of > vehicles on our roads. Just from a cost of ownership and convenience > perspective. A lot of families could have one EV and one ICE, rather than > two ICE cars. > > One of the big advantages in a major metro is no point source emissions. It > will clean up our air quite a bit. It is hard to imagine how much exhaust > comes off the 405 every day. We live just over the hill from it. > > Anyway I don't see diesel trucks going anywhere soon unless we get a lot > more serious about rail infrastructure. There is a lot of infrastructure > that would need to be built to make EVs more broadly practical than they > are also. > > The electic grid would be fine. The impact would be less than the advent of > residential AC. Just build it up if needed. But they will all charge off > peak anyway, just the way my thermostat already gets turned up > automatically when demand is high on hot evenings. > > Not a solution to every problem but EVs are a good solution to a lot of > problems. If we got serious about separating bike lanes from car lanes and > making cycling truly safe like they did in Holland, tons of people would > ride bikes here in LA and a lot of them would be electric. An electric bike > is an impressive thing. Much more impressive than electric cars, from a > power to weight perspective. If they can ever get this Aptera thing off the > ground, it would really be a cool mode of commuter transport. Until then a > velomobile with a power hub is as close as it gets. Electric skateboards > are also impressive, but less safe. Those One Wheel things will apparently > go 100 miles on a charge or something. They weigh nothing. > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 7:21 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> These things are still toys, only suitable for well-defined commuting. >> Not work. >> >> >> There was an OT Benzworld thread on EVs that popped up on an email feed. >> This is my response. >> >> Unless John Deere is going to make electric combines and tractors, >> locomotives stop using diesel fuel, and semi trucks become electric, EVs >> are a virtue signal. A refinery can only skew the crude crack a few >> percentage points one way or the other as far as end products go. You like >> asphalt on your roads? You need to refine crude. You like plastic for all >> the purposes it serves? You need to refine crude. If you still refine crude >> and have no demand for gasoline, the price drops precipitously or it >> becomes a waste product to be flared off, much like natural gas on an oil >> rig. There is currently no fuel source with as much Btu capacity per pound >> as refined petroleum products, save perhaps nuclear energy. >> >> Build thorium powered nuclear plants, use Fischer Troupsch to turn coal >> into diesel and gasoline and the planet is saved. TPTB don't want a >> solution. They want control. >> >> >> Rick >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
