Has anybody ever gotten a shop to use one of the alternate refridgerants? I'd like to use Autofrost but don't have the space or tools (no vacuum pump and more importantly nowhere to plug it in) to do it myself. I'd like to find somebody who could do it, I'd pick up the AutoFrost and have somebody else to do the work. Even better would be somebody who'd let me help so I could see how its done. -Curt Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:10:58 -0400 From: "Scott Ritchey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Do any shops in the NW do R12 A/C service anymore? To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
But also consider an alternative like Envirosafe ES12a, see http://autorefrigerants.com/. This is probably a DIY solution. I tried ES12a recently and was very pleased. They also sell hoses that connect to the R12 low side as well as a dryer product and little gizmos to check AC oil quality/quantity. I haven't tried their sealer products. There are other refrigerants, like Freeze 12 but I haven't tried them. They have a kit with 3 cans and a hose for $70 as I recall. No need to change the oil (stay with mineral oil) and the pressures are same or lower than R12, both are big advantages in my mind. --------------------------------- Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1ยข/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun 27 22:50:46 2006 Received: from pop-sarus.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.72]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FvMOM-0007WW-9P for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:50:46 +0000 Received: from dialup-4.224.180.76.dial1.cincinnati1.level3.net ([4.224.180.76]) by pop-sarus.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1FvMOE-0003SA-00 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:50:38 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:47:06 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 603 no start revisited. X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:50:47 -0000 The plunger sets may indeed just be full of air, and you must pressurize the pump to get it out. Supplying pressurized fuel with the pressure valve holders out will also purge any air, or remove the pressure valve and spring and crank with the lines loose -- this should force fuel out the plunger sets. You should also be able to see the plungers moving up and down with the pressure valve holder off if you look straight down. If the rack is moving you problem isn't a stuck rack.... Peter