All valid points for the most part.

I totally agree that EVs have a place, but it’s not replacing *all* ICE-powered 
cars/vehicles. The techhnology and infrastructure simply isn’t there. This is a 
perfet example of the pendulum swinging waaay too far to one side, with the 
resulting outcome being rather unpleasant for a lot of reasons. This is what’s 
happening now, I believe - carmakers have come to the realization that EVs are 
not products for the masses yet, and will not address all of the worlds woes.

I mentioned it before - I’ve driven a Ford hybrid that was a perfect fit and 
used all of maybe $10 of gasoline over a three week period that I drove it as a 
daily driver. Why isn’t that more acceptable as a transitional sort of vehicle 
for the next 10-20 years as technology makes more sense for EVs.

-D

> On May 7, 2024, at 12:03 PM, OK DonN via Mercedes <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Although it's still vaporware, it is getting closer to reality, the Aptera 
> comes close to meeting your desired paramaters. https://aptera.us/
> I saw, bit can't remember which one, that one of the car companies is 
> dropping full EVs for hybrid series gas/EV cars. The gas engine powers the 
> generator when needed, electricity turns the wheels when needed. Substitute 
> Diesel for gas and I think you are in the sweet spot.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, May 7th, 2024 at 10:58 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am not a real fan of the electric vehicles being pushed upon us by the
>> fools who think they are wonderful, but I see enough propaganda on a
>> daily basis to make me think about them.
>> 
>> Some of you folks are engineers etc and likely have a better grasp of
>> this sort of thing than I do, so here are my current thoughts on the
>> subject.
>> 
>> It appears to me that most of the current crop of electric vehicles are
>> high powered and very quick. Some or perhaps most are also all wheel
>> drive. They are also generally quite expensive. They require high
>> powered chargers to charge in reasonable periods of time and the
>> batteries do not last for the long haul and are expensive to replace.
>> 
>> I am wondering why. Would it not make a lot of sense, if one is trying
>> to make a wholesale change to the vehicle world to build lesser
>> vehicles. Use smaller motors that use less power. That should either
>> extend the range or permit smaller batteries of perhaps both would be
>> possible. That should also result in lower electrical use for charging
>> purposes so it would be less expensive to operate them. If the battery
>> was smaller, it should weigh less and special tires might not be
>> required and the tires should last longer. Most would not require all
>> wheel drive so there would be maybe 2 motors rather than 4 of maybe
>> even, only one motor like we have enjoyed in the past. Smaller batteries
>> should be less expensive to replace. Maybe they could even be swappable
>> entities rather than require a lot of work to replace. Despite the fact
>> that "luxury" cars are popular, there must be a market for more basic
>> cars without all of the electronic gadgetry in cars like the Tesla.
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
>> 
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