The same thing can happen if you overheat a  engine. The  head warps 
upwards around  the centre area and causes cam bearing binding .
mak
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From: "Trampas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble


> Ticking in the 117 engines, often is due to worn camshafts. I had bad tick
> on one and I spent a lot of time and money replacing lifters when the
> camshaft was problem. Basically my view point is that if the 117 ticks but
> does not miss at idle then don't worry about it. When it gets bad enough 
> to
> cause drivability problems then you can worry.
>
> If the camshaft is the problem you will have to sort down the problem that
> made camshaft go bad. For example jack legged mechanic not replacing oil
> tubes correctly, bad oil pump, etc. Also if you remove the cam towers from 
> a
> 117 be prepared to remove head and heil-core block.
>
> Thus there is nothing more expensive than a cheap gasser Mercedes with a
> lifter tick...
>
> My 420SEL got so screwed up by a jack legged mechanic that I had to shim 
> the
> cam towers such that they would not bind the camshaft too much. I can not
> begin to tell you how bad they screwed it up.
>
> Trampas
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 6:58 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
>
> So I know if I was under the hood of a gasser and heard ticking coming
> from the rocker covers I would think a lifter was not getting proper
> oiling, or was collapsing or something.
>
> As I was under the 190D hood a bit ago attempting, yes attempting, to
> check the transmission fluid - stupid thing that dipstick is - I heard
> a somewhat intermittent tapping acompanying the normal klatta. Would
> tick for maybe 10 seconds, then stop ticking, then start again after a
> couple seconds.
>
> Is this normal racket to be coming from the engine? Or is this
> indicitive of a problem?
>
> Brian
> 87 190D
> 83 240D
>
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