Hi Timothy, You wrote <<Course, what can be done if you have a "friend of a 
friend" who knows how to
hook that generator and though is unlicensed, he'll do it cheaper than I as
he doesn't have the expense of pulling a permit, liability insurance nor
workman's comp? Same with mechanics. We [SNIP]>>

Great points Tim!  As a side note, my son is a brick mason - his boss, the 
owner of the company has started a 1 man crusade to get the state or county 
building inspectors, or some government official to make sure the contractor 
getting the building permit will only use legal labor.  Presently, full time 
companies doing quality brick work pay their  top people around $40/hr. 
Lately, some contractors are using illegal labor and only paying them $5 - 
$6/hr - making it very difficult for licensed contractors to do business 
properly - that's what happens when the competition pays 1/3 what you are. 
As  you say, there are all kinds of expenses when running a business 
properly.  The overhead expenses can be enormous when trying to run a 
business and employ people - it generally doubles the cost of the employees 
hourly rate.   Although my son's company ends up getting paid to fix some of 
the work done by the illegal contractors they would prefer not to do that. 
Better to do things correctly the 1st time.  Besides, who knows what 
substandard work gets past the inspectors - and may cause a safety problem 
in the future?

 I'm not big on unions, so I don't want to advocate that, but someone needs 
to monitor the labor being used here.

Gotta go put my anti-flame suit on ;-)

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Timothy Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mechanics lien - need advice


Hey, you know this sounds kinda like the state licensing of contractors,
insurance salesmen, etc.

Not that I advocate more "government regulation," but it can be a good
thing. It not only protects the consumer but also the tradesman. Every month
I receive a state newsletter which lists pending actions and resolutions by
the state licensing board. These actions are usually a result of complaints
by someone who engaged another's service and the job wasn't performed
satisfactorily. The most often infraction is one engaging in business
without being licensed.

IMHO inspections are a good thing which protect you, the homeowner but also
me as the electrical contractor. Face it, if your house burns down and they
can't decide the cause of the fire it's often assumed to be electrical? As
last person on record that work on your house, I'd wanna be protected (and
my liability insurance) by knowing that the work I had done was signed off
on by the local inspection authority (in this state under the insurance
commission).

Course, what can be done if you have a "friend of a friend" who knows how to
hook that generator and though is unlicensed, he'll do it cheaper than I as
he doesn't have the expense of pulling a permit, liability insurance nor
workman's comp? Same with mechanics. We all know "miracle working" indies
who if were required to pass a state board every year (and associated fees
of being in business) would probably not be able to work. Such regulation
would probably put some good people out of business.

Used to a plaque at a business stating they were members of the Better
Business Bureau meant something. One can still call the local bureau and get
a report of any complaints or actions against a business. I personally go to
the local courthouse and look up and civil actions against new contractors
that I don't know.

Bottom line on car repair? I've been guilty of making hasty decisions under
duress when a vehicle broke down on me. Used to the automatic option was to
return a car to the dealer where it was purchased. Many people do that just
because of warranty. Doesn't apply to we folks who drive these 25+ year old
beautys. Mine really should qualify for "Medicar" <----Look! I made a
funny!).

Under duress though... that's kinda like funeral homes who are required by
the Federal Trade Commission to give you a list upfront of their costs of
services when you have to plant old Aunt Madge. Maybe at least a shop should
provide a list of fees (including diagnostic) upfront.





> From: Bob Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:29:33 -0700
> To: "mercedes@okiebenz.com" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Subject: [MBZ] Mechanics lien - need advice
>
> I am Executive Director at the Alberta Motor Vehicle Industry Council 
> (AMVIC).
> We license 6000 businesses that are selling and repairing vehicles in the
> province of Alberta.  We also register 9000 sales people.  We have 15
> investigators that mediate consumer complaints.  We are funded by the
> licensing fees that we levy.  Our function used to be done by the 
> Provincial
> government - they weren't doing a great job at it so between them and
> industry, AMVIC got created in 1999.  Our mediation last year added up to
> about $4 million.  We refuse to grant licenses and cancel them as well. 
> We
> lay charges for operating without a license.
>
> So, if you were in Alberta, you would complain to us, we would assign an
> investigator and he would find some common ground.  If the business has
> committed a fraud, he can lay a charge under the Criminal Code.
>
> We have found that since we were formed, industry has learned that there 
> is a
> fairly significant consequence if they "cross the line".  I am certainly 
> not
> naïve enough to think that it is fixed but I think we are making an impact 
> in
> making businesses more honest and making them think twice before they 
> "pad" a
> repair.
>
> Most states have a consumer affairs type office that performs a function
> similar to us - I don't know them well but that might be an avenue to 
> explore.
>
> And I am progressing quite nicely in the restoration of my 67 200D 
> (pictures
> at bottom link below).   .....   Bob
>
> Bob Hamilton  O|||||||O
> *  (780) 462-0860
> 7  (780) 462-0633  FAX
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