you wrote<<its already hard for farmers in places like California to compete 
with population for water>>

That's what happens when you live in a desert and depend on mountain 
snowfall hundreds of miles away to
provide everyone with water.   It's not possible to *not* have some years 
when there is less snowfall - and some with more snowfall.  Weather is 
cyclical - that's all that can be depended on.

Also, all the GW predictions are based on computer models - some are wildly 
optimistic and others are wildly pessimistic with the pro-GW crowd choosing 
the most pessimistic models.

These same models surprise us with a foot of snow when light rain is 
predicted - for the next morning!  And we're supposed to believe what they 
predict in 5-90 years?

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Diesel List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate


>
> Don't we? Ocean levels will rise, theres really no debate there. Fresh 
> water stocks will become more precious, its already hard for farmers in 
> places like California to compete with population for water...
>
> Sure I don't know if it'll kill us off like fish in a pond that gets too 
> warm but I know it'll cause problems.
>
> As a side note I can't take credit for the idea (I ment to write an 
> attribution before) theres a video on Youtube (I think) where a guy puts 
> this forth, I just happen to agree.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:06:42 -0600
> From: Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MBZ]  OT: The eco debate
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> Curt wrote:
>
> "So if we do nothing we die. If we change our evil ways we have a 50%
> chance of dying. Your choice is certain death or a 50% chance of death."
>
> There is a flaw in your logic.  The flaw is based on your assumption
> that global warming is a) getting worse b) actually going to cause us
> harm.
>
> Your argument is basically if we do something, we can reduce the risk
> that it is going to kill us.  BUT, you have completely left out another
> possibility. Global warming (regardless of its cause) may not cause any
> harm. What we do not know is whether the 1 degree increase in
> temperature that we have experienced over the last 100 years is going to 
> have
> any affect on us or the planet.
>
> Donald H. Snook
>
>
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