Royce wrote <<the right for two beings to be "married", regardless of anything>>
I'm not familiar with the wording of the recently passed legislation -- does it specify "2 people" ? or can it be 3,4,5 or more? What about father marrying son, daughter or the family dog? re: << "State sovereignty died at Appomattox>> In spite of the tremendous effort our forefathers put into the Constitution, state sovereignty was fought for and lost. There are so many references to "...rights are reserved to the states (or the people) unless specifically given to the federal govt but they seem to be lost when the gov or some loud yelling group wants it to be different. This is where things really went wrong - instead of those things not specifically relegated to the fed going to the state or the people, the fed is taking control of everything from soup to nuts! With the collusion of the supreme court it seems! Once the Constitutional comment about "promote the general Welfare" was declared to cover interstate commerce there was no limit to the gov power as it can be considered to include virtually everything and anything the gov wants it to mean. The constitution was wrotten to provide << the principle of government power as a grant from the people, rather than individual rights being a grant from the government.>> And most directlly <<rights not listed are reserved to the states or to the people>> We have lost our way -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Royce Engler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise > Max said... > > Also, nowhere in our (U.S.) constitution is there a right to vote. Not in > the bill of rights, not in the articles. In other words (I think - > someone > correct me if I'm wrong), it would not take a constitutional amendment to > change our current system, just a majority vote passed into law by a state > legislature... > > - I can't believe you missed it...it's right there next to a woman's right > to murder an unborn child, and the right for two beings to be "married", > regardless of anything. As far as the states being able to control their > own voting processes, I think the Voting Rights Act speaks for that (Not > that there's anything in the Constitution that authorizes THAT little gem > of > legislation)...oh, but it only applies to SOUTHERN states, so I guess the > northern states could do it. > > Heinlein's approach to suffrage is a lot like John Stuart Mill's... > > To quote Supreme Court Justice Salmon P. Chase, who served from 1864 to > 1873, "State sovereignty died at Appomattox". > > Royce - an unreconstructed Southerner > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
