Hi Bruce,

> On 24 Mar 2022, at 13:06, Bruce Ashfield <bruce.ashfi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 4:42 AM Bertrand Marquis <bertrand.marq...@arm.com> 
> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > On 23 Mar 2022, at 22:17, Bruce Ashfield via lists.yoctoproject.org 
> > <bruce.ashfield=gmail....@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 6:30 AM Richard Purdie 
> > <richard.pur...@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2022-03-23 at 08:38 +0000, Bertrand Marquis wrote:
> > > Hi Paulo
> > > 
> > > > On 22 Mar 2022, at 16:52, Paulo Sherring via lists.yoctoproject.org 
> > > > <pauloasherring=gmail....@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hello Diego, Bertrand,
> > > > Just confirmed that by bringing these changes into hardknott, the
> > > > modules get correctly probed on bootup.
> > > 
> > > Great thanks for the info.
> > > 
> > > @Bruce: Maybe it would make sense to backport this as hardknott is LTS ?
> > > If yes, please ping me if you need support to do it.
> > 
> > hardknott is not LTS, it is about to go EOL.
> > 
> > 
> > Agreed. I don't like to leave things broken either .. but we really 
> > shouldn't encourage people to keep using the branches that are going out of 
> > support. If I fix this one, there will be other issues that aren't 
> > fixed/patched in the future (and potentially security issues) .. so I'm 
> > leaning towards leaving this not backported. 
> 
> The branch is still supported at the moment and is broken.
> I do not think it is right to say “we will stop fixing issues a bit before 
> the branch is out of support” as this is equivalent to reducing the support 
> time.
> Out of support is more something which should be works but does not get any 
> update or security fixes, here we have something broken while under support.
> 
> 
> Broken is a far too dramatic description of this issue. 
> 
> Also, when talking about support, we are talking about OEcore / Yocto Project 
> support. The rest of the layers in the ecosystem do this sort of support as 
> best effort. So a gentle reminder that we should all be careful with 
> expectations and the tone of our communications.
> 

Sorry if my tone did not sound right, that was not my intention.
I just wanted to understand what we should expect and hence what we should do 
in stable branches.

>  
> Anyway the fix is simple and the person is unblocked so it will be easy for 
> the next one to solve it, so my argumentation is more in general around what 
> should the end of support date mean for users.
> 
> I have queued the change, but my reminder about expectations stands.

Thanks.

I think that would be good to be clear on what can be expected in a stable 
branch after the release for meta-virtualization.
That could also help me to know what I should consider critical ornate and fix 
in stable releases.

Kind regards
Bertrand

> 
> Bruce
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers
> Bertrand
> 
> > 
> > Bruce
> > 
> >  
> > https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Releases
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > - Thou shalt not follow the NULL pointer, for chaos and madness await thee 
> > at its end
> > - "Use the force Harry" - Gandalf, Star Trek II
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> - Thou shalt not follow the NULL pointer, for chaos and madness await thee at 
> its end
> - "Use the force Harry" - Gandalf, Star Trek II

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