Thanks again Mario! I made more progress towards the final demonstration of the full IMO problem. Working on the following lemma:
``` h1::imo72b2lem1.1 |- ( ph -> F : RR --> RR ) h2::imo72b2lem1.7 |- ( ph -> E. x e. RR ( F ` x ) =/= 0 ) h3::imo72b2lem0.6 |- ( ph -> A. y e. RR ( abs ` ( F ` y ) ) <_ 1 ) ``` I need to prove the following goal which seems pretty obvious but I'm struggling to find a way to discharge it: ``` d84:: |- ( ( ph /\ x e. RR ) -> ( ( abs o. F ) ` x ) =/= (/) ) ``` Any idea on how to proceed with this? Thanks thanks! -stan On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 6:27 PM Mario Carneiro <[email protected]> wrote: > There is a theorem specifically for that translation, something like A. x > e. ( F " A ) P[x] <-> A. y e. A P[( F ` y )]. It's probably called ralima > but you've caught me on the bus again. > > Mario > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020, 8:07 AM 'Stanislas Polu' via Metamath < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks Mario! >> >> I just finished formalizing the following lemma (which is a good chunk of >> the proof \o/): >> >> ``` >> $d F c x $. $d c ph x $. >> imo72b2lem.1 $e |- ( ph -> F : RR --> RR ) $. >> imo72b2lem.2 $e |- ( ph -> G : RR --> RR ) $. >> imo72b2lem.3 $e |- ( ph -> A e. RR ) $. >> imo72b2lem.4 $e |- ( ph -> B e. RR ) $. >> imo72b2lem.5 $e |- ( ph -> ( ( F ` ( A + B ) ) + ( F ` ( A - B ) ) ) >> = ( 2 x. ( ( F ` A ) x. ( G ` B ) ) ) ) $. >> imo72b2lem.6 $e |- ( ph -> A. x e. ( abs " ( F " RR ) ) x <_ 1 ) $. >> imo72b2lem.7 $e |- ( ph -> E. x e. RR ( F ` x ) =/= 0 ) $. >> >> imo72b2lem $p |- ( ph -> ( ( abs ` ( F ` A ) ) x. ( abs ` ( G ` B ) ) >> ) <_ sup ( ( abs " ( F " RR ) ) , RR , < ) ) $= >> ``` >> >> Proof here: >> https://github.com/spolu/set.mm/commit/454132a35254c17c4e54353b5c2c772eeb2ebb65 >> >> One thing I'm quite dissatisfied with is the shape of `imo72b2lem.6`. I'd >> much rather have the more natural/intuitive expression `|- ( ph -> A. x e. >> RR ( abs ` ( F `x ) ) <_ 1 )` but I completely failed to prove imo72b2lem.6 >> from it. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated! >> >> -stan >> >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 8:45 PM Mario Carneiro <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Can't look right now, but you should search for a theorem of the form A >>> = (/) <-> ( F " A ) = (/) . >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 11:30 AM 'Stanislas Polu' via Metamath < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm now looking to prove that `( abs " ( F " RR ) ) =/= (/)` given `F : >>>> RR --> RR`. From my exploration of the definition of --> I believe this >>>> should be enough but I don't see an easy path towards that? Would anybody >>>> have an example in mind that could give me a little bit of inspiration? >>>> >>>> Thanks for the continued support! >>>> >>>> -stan >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 6:29 PM Benoit <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Stan: you're right about the need to prove this (if using explicit >>>>> substitution): look for the utility theorems exchanging [. / ]. with other >>>>> symbols (quantifiers, operations). As said by Jim and Thierry, who are >>>>> more experienced in proof building, implicit substitution might be easier >>>>> to use. 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