Hi Ruben,

I think Whetstone had far greater evidence of there being stones on the ground if I remember correctly. Didn't Jack find one very shortly after the fall? There were multiple camera captures, sonics and witnesses, both visual and audible.

The sonics I refer to do include human witnesses but I tend to look for the sonic station reports if there are any. We certainly could use more sonic stations and that is used to back up and confirm the video records of the events.

When I hear about possible rocks on the ground without basis, it bugs me. It reminds me of the calling wolf syndrome. I just do not like seeing people going on wild goose chases but I suppose if that floats their boat that's fine and not my concern. But when I am working an event I wont lead someone to think there is possibly something on the ground when I can't back that up. In the next day or so, the gurus will likely have a good idea on the trajectory of this meteor. There is a lot to consider.
I like the idea of work smarter, not harder!

So we still have the Tucson event....multiple camera captures, sonics and lots of witnesses. There ought to be 100 hunters out there looking.
Nothing found to date.

Jim

On 4/13/2014 4:06 PM, Ruben Garcia wrote:
Hi all,

Jim it's pretty much the same with any meteor event. The truth is
unless we have good Doppler information or someone personally
witnessed a meteorite strike a house or a car, or there is a stone
found - there's not much reason to waste time looking.

Most people (me included) thought the Whetstone Mountains meteor event
was not worth looking for - It took me over a month to even start the
hunt. I wish I'd have started sooner.

Also, the lack of Sonic reports may be due to the fact that it landed
where no one lives and not that it didn't produce a sonic boom.

I've been doing this a long time and I think the bottom line is this:
If someone finds a meteorite, just one that went though a roof - most
hunters would go try to find more - me included.


On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Jim Wooddell
<jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net> wrote:
Hi Shawn,  This is a fairly normal event.  Nothing much to get excited
about.  The calculation is an error.    If the 40.8km is the burn out I
doubt anyone will waste much time on this one.
No sonic reports to speak of and that is also not a good sign. The UT is
questionable too!

Jim






On 4/13/2014 12:57 PM, shawna...@meteoritefalls.com wrote:
Hello Listers

I found some info on the fall and here is some stats...

vel 667.2 km/s beg 135.8 km end 40.8 km

Now could a meteorite come from the Vel speed? I mean thats really fast
667.2km, or that could be a mistake, which I think it is? With the
meteor ending at 40km there is a possibility there could be some stones
on the ground. And after looking at the video I could see the meteor for
around 4 seconds and at the end the meteor got brighter.

more stats below...

Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
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http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
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time 20140413 3.0738 hours
    lat  32 26 22.632 =  32.4396 deg
    lon 253 16 38.856 = 253.2775 deg
     ht 40.775 b -1.38207 7.62031 -17.37020 -7.68054
         alp 300.962 +/-  0.462 deg
         del  70.037 +/-  0.310 deg
       v_inf 667.240 +/- 977.292 km/s
       v_avg 667.240 +/- 977.292 km/s
                                         a  -0.002 +/-  0.006 AU
           e 493.776 +/- 1444.978
        incl  85.761 +/-  3.793 deg
       omega 168.225 +/-  0.185 deg
    asc_node  22.922 +/-  0.000 deg
         v_g 667.102 +/- 977.428 km/s
         v_h 668.691 +/- 976.474 km/s
     alp_geo 301.065 +/-  0.482 deg
     del_geo  70.004 +/-  0.311 deg
       q_per   0.982 +/-  0.001 AU
       q_aph  -0.986 +/-  0.011 AU
      lambda  30.964 +/-  1.513 deg
        beta  78.151 +/-  0.165 deg
   true anom  11.775 +/-  0.165 deg

         T_j   hyp

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