Hi Mike!
Any post that gets folks in a frenzy. However, this was response to Ruben.
Jim
On 4/13/2014 6:45 PM, Mike Miller wrote:
Hey Jim just curious are you referring to my post here?
When I hear about possible rocks on the ground without basis, it bugs
me. It reminds me of the calling wolf syndrome.
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Jim Wooddell
<jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net <mailto:jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net>> wrote:
Hi Ruben,
I think Whetstone had far greater evidence of there being stones
on the ground if I remember correctly.
Didn't Jack find one very shortly after the fall? There were
multiple camera captures, sonics and witnesses, both visual and
audible.
The sonics I refer to do include human witnesses but I tend to
look for the sonic station reports if there are any.
We certainly could use more sonic stations and that is used to
back up and confirm the video records of the events.
When I hear about possible rocks on the ground without basis, it
bugs me. It reminds me of the calling wolf syndrome.
I just do not like seeing people going on wild goose chases but I
suppose if that floats their boat that's fine and not my concern.
But when I am working an event I wont lead someone to think there
is possibly something on the ground when I can't back that up.
In the next day or so, the gurus will likely have a good idea on
the trajectory of this meteor. There is a lot to consider.
I like the idea of work smarter, not harder!
So we still have the Tucson event....multiple camera captures,
sonics and lots of witnesses. There ought to be 100 hunters out
there looking.
Nothing found to date.
Jim
On 4/13/2014 4:06 PM, Ruben Garcia wrote:
Hi all,
Jim it's pretty much the same with any meteor event. The truth is
unless we have good Doppler information or someone personally
witnessed a meteorite strike a house or a car, or there is a stone
found - there's not much reason to waste time looking.
Most people (me included) thought the Whetstone Mountains
meteor event
was not worth looking for - It took me over a month to even
start the
hunt. I wish I'd have started sooner.
Also, the lack of Sonic reports may be due to the fact that it
landed
where no one lives and not that it didn't produce a sonic boom.
I've been doing this a long time and I think the bottom line
is this:
If someone finds a meteorite, just one that went though a roof
- most
hunters would go try to find more - me included.
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Jim Wooddell
<jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net
<mailto:jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net>> wrote:
Hi Shawn, This is a fairly normal event. Nothing much to
get excited
about. The calculation is an error. If the 40.8km is
the burn out I
doubt anyone will waste much time on this one.
No sonic reports to speak of and that is also not a good
sign. The UT is
questionable too!
Jim
On 4/13/2014 12:57 PM, shawna...@meteoritefalls.com
<mailto:shawna...@meteoritefalls.com> wrote:
Hello Listers
I found some info on the fall and here is some stats...
vel 667.2 km/s beg 135.8 km end 40.8 km
Now could a meteorite come from the Vel speed? I mean
thats really fast
667.2km, or that could be a mistake, which I think it
is? With the
meteor ending at 40km there is a possibility there
could be some stones
on the ground. And after looking at the video I could
see the meteor for
around 4 seconds and at the end the meteor got brighter.
more stats below...
Shawn Alan
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time 20140413 3.0738 hours
lat 32 26 22.632 = 32.4396 deg
lon 253 16 38.856 = 253.2775 deg
ht 40.775 b -1.38207 7.62031 -17.37020 -7.68054
alp 300.962 +/- 0.462 deg
del 70.037 +/- 0.310 deg
v_inf 667.240 +/- 977.292 km/s
v_avg 667.240 +/- 977.292 km/s
a -0.002 +/-
0.006 AU
e 493.776 +/- 1444.978
incl 85.761 +/- 3.793 deg
omega 168.225 +/- 0.185 deg
asc_node 22.922 +/- 0.000 deg
v_g 667.102 +/- 977.428 km/s
v_h 668.691 +/- 976.474 km/s
alp_geo 301.065 +/- 0.482 deg
del_geo 70.004 +/- 0.311 deg
q_per 0.982 +/- 0.001 AU
q_aph -0.986 +/- 0.011 AU
lambda 30.964 +/- 1.513 deg
beta 78.151 +/- 0.165 deg
true anom 11.775 +/- 0.165 deg
T_j hyp
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