Mark, So, what you are saying is that ATC has a better command and control process for the movement of the airline’s $100s of Billions of aircraft assets than the airlines themselves. This is so wrong on so many levels. Michael xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx R. Michael Baiada cell - (303) 521-6047 <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] From: Mark HANSEN via Mifnet <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2025 15:33 To: [email protected] Cc: Mark HANSEN <[email protected]> Subject: [Mifnet 🛰 73206] Re: Huh? This is actually an interesting corner of air traffic management. Airlines will sometimes ask FAA to implement ground stops or other ATM initiatives that the carriers could theoretically carry out themselves, because FAA has processes and systems in place to do this more easily. On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 10:50 AM Mike Borfitz via Mifnet <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Good question. Maybe "Advised" rather than "sought". No way is it necessary to get FAA approval. Air Traffic might appreciate it for their own planning. Borfitz Mike Borfitz, DER Cell 206-714-8797 e-Mail: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Kilroy Aviation LLC Website: <http://www.faaoda.com/> WWW.FAAODA.COM Kilroy is available for aviation regulatory and safety issues - Type & Production Certification, Continued Operational Safety - International validation & safety matters - Program & system management - FAA STC ODA On Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 8:42 AM Tom Ronell via Mifnet <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Alaska had to apply to FAA to not fly? Per below: "According to an FAA advisory, the airline sought approval to ground over 200 planes under its brand. It later expanded the stoppage to include planes from its Horizon Air unit. Alaska Airlines said the decision stemmed from a computer network outage. While the ground stop was lifted about three hours later, around 11pm Pacific, Alaska said that “residual impacts” to its operations would be felt, adding, “It will take some time to get our overall operations back to normal.” As NBC News noted, the disruption comes almost exactly a year -- Professor Mark Hansen Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering, UC Berkeley Co-Director, National Center of Excellence for Aviation Operations Research 114 McLaughlin Hall Berkeley CA 94720 Phone: 510-642-2880 Cell: 510-375-1745
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