Point taken.  We are working on it.  

Back to MT issues.      



-----Original Message-----
From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com
[mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Gotstein
Sent: April-21-10 11:16 AM
To: Mikrotik discussions
Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: Mikrotik/StarOS
10mhz/5mhz channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam

Running MT APs with XR2 cards.  No problems connecting Tranzeo CPQ/SL2
or UBNT radios when using a 10mhz channel.

I do agree on how well we like our Tranzeo radios.  I just wish they
could come down on the price of the CPQ-19f radio.  We can get a
bullet2HP w/ 19db panel for a lot less.  The price on the
CPQ-15f/SL2-15f is perfect and competitive with a Bullet2 w/ 16db panel.

---- ---- ---- ----
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http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com

On 4/21/2010 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Does Tranzeo work with Ubnt or MT or StarOS in 5 or 10 mhz channels?
> 
> I guess 2.4 and 5ghz are different compatibility wise as it's come to
light
> that StarOS and MT work together in 5ghz but not 2.4.
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue
> that counts."
> --- Winston Churchill
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Robert Andrews
<rob...@avantwireless.com>wrote:
> 
> Damian,
>        Thank you for making this public.   We know that MT and
Valemount
> have
> no love lost, and thanks to both Tranzeo and UBNT for working with
both
> of them.   Your competitive spirit made this business thrive against
> proprietary interests...   We wish that StarOS and MT would have
> cooperated in this to make it so we didn't have to choose one or the
> other.  We would have both in our network for each of their particular
> advantages if they had....   Our testing showed ST did better on
> customer throughput and MT did better as real routers...
> 
> Tranzeo and UBNT did best as customer equipment with Tranzeo doing
> better in marginal conditions and UBNT doing better in price...   So
we
> have both.
> 
> Best,
>        Robert
> 
> On 04/21/2010 10:22 AM, Damian Wallace wrote:
>>>> Insert Flame here ^^^^^^^
>>>>
>>>> State Secret.
>>>>
>>>> The beacons from one are in a different format than the other. It
has to
>>>> fixed in the code by one or the other, preferably both.  An SA,
unless
>>>> it's a high end lab grade one, won't show the difference.
Since 5
>>>> MHz was a lucky accident on Atheros' part, they never documented
how to
>>>> use it fully so different vendors made reasonable, but different,
>>>> choices about how to modify their drivers to use it.  Result is
staring
>>>> Matt in the face with an evil grin.  It can be fixed, in code
though.
>>>> After all, Tranzeo and other brands can connect to both.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Damian
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com
>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of D. Ryan
Spott
>>>> Sent: April-21-10 10:09 AM
>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>> Cc: Mikrotik discussions
>>>> Subject: [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik/StarOS
10mhz/5mhz
>>>> channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam
>>>>
>>>> What are the center frequencies reported by the staros and mtik
boxes
>>>> when you go to 10mhz channels?
>>>>
>>>> Do you have a spectrum analyzer?
>>>>
>>>> ryan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists
>>>> <li...@manageisp.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Did some more testing on this today.
>>>>>
>>>>> 5ghz 10mhz and 5mhz channels seem to work fine, with Mikrotik as a
>>>>> client to a StarOS AP.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.4ghz 10mhz and 5mhz channels do not work at all with Mikrotik as
a
>>>>> client to a StarOS AP.   I did verify that the 20mhz channel
>>>>> settings worked fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> This was using Mikrotik R52 cards on both sides, Hardware Retries
>>>>> set to 15 and tested under Mikrotik 2.9.48 and 3.25.   StarOS is
>>>>> version 1.3.23b.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>>> vistabeam.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/13/2010 7:18 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>>>>>> What specifically is the problem?  They won't connect on 5/10MHz
on a
>>>>>> StarOS AP?  Is the StarOS AP an Atheros based AP?  Have you tried
>>>>>> setting Hardware Retries to 15 under advanced wireless settings
on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Tik?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Chuck Hogg
>>>>>> Shelby Broadband
>>>>>> 502-722-9292
>>>>>> ch...@shelbybb.com
>>>>>> http://www.shelbybb.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Matt
>>>>>> Larsen -
>>>>>> Lists
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:13 AM
>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>>> Subject: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik/StarOS 10mhz/5mhz channel
compatibility
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I realize that I asked this question a few months ago, but
thought
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> I would ask again to see if anyone knows whether there have been
>>>>>> changes
>>>>>> in new versions of Mikrotik that would fix the compatibility with
>>>>>> StarOS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 10mhz/5mhz APs?    I have a pile of MT units that are no good to
me
>>>>>> unless they work with StarOS APs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>>>> vistabeam.com
>>>>>>
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