-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 We have a bunch of MT AP's with Tz CPQ's working fine with TKIP. But I just realized that we use Nagios to check all the connections and that would satisfy your criteria of traffic more than once an hour. We noticed that behavior a long time ago when we were packaging Linksys bridges into boxes with StarOS AP's and used nagios to work around that. Guess that kept us from seeing this problem too...
Robert On 04/21/2010 12:59 PM, Damian Wallace wrote: > I think I had a message get filed under /dev/null somewhere. > > I have a customer who doesn't speak English who is using MT for AP, TzT > for CPE, with WPA TKIP, because that how his customer demanded it be > TKIP. > > Every hour, the TKIP connection drops if there is no traffic. Change > client, same thing. Can't change AP, customer will notice :-) > > Looking for a working MT config with TKIP turned on to see what he and I > doing wrong :-( > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com > [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris > Gotstein > Sent: April-21-10 12:12 PM > To: Mikrotik discussions > Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Was 5 Mhz, now WPA TKIP > > Ah! my bad. In that situation, i have run into some older or odd gear > that didn't like or didn't offer the option of AES when using WPA/WPA2. > On the "n" gear i've never run into an issue with WPA2 using AES and i > almost always configure it for AES. > > ---- ---- ---- ---- > Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP > http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com > > On 4/21/2010 1:56 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> I have never encrypted the 802.11 customers, but I do use 10mhz > channels. >> >> I was referring to inside Wifi APs and such. Primarily a business > that asks >> for/wants it (not often!) and myself. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > continue >> that counts." >> --- Winston Churchill >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Chris Gotstein <ch...@uplogon.com> > wrote: >> >>> About a year ago we stopped using encryption between our APs and >>> clients. There were to many issues between different vendors that > would >>> cause things to break. Since dropping encryption, we've have far > less >>> issues with radio's locking up or having trouble connecting. >>> >>> ---- ---- ---- ---- >>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >>> >>> On 4/21/2010 1:46 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>> I thought it was 802.11n only, but WPA sucks with TKIP. Use AES and > it >>>> should work better. >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>> continue >>>> that counts." >>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Damian Wallace > <dwall...@tranzeo.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Point taken. We are working on it. >>>>> >>>>> Back to MT issues. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com >>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris >>>>> Gotstein >>>>> Sent: April-21-10 11:16 AM >>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: Mikrotik/StarOS >>>>> 10mhz/5mhz channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam >>>>> >>>>> Running MT APs with XR2 cards. No problems connecting Tranzeo > CPQ/SL2 >>>>> or UBNT radios when using a 10mhz channel. >>>>> >>>>> I do agree on how well we like our Tranzeo radios. I just wish > they >>>>> could come down on the price of the CPQ-19f radio. We can get a >>>>> bullet2HP w/ 19db panel for a lot less. The price on the >>>>> CPQ-15f/SL2-15f is perfect and competitive with a Bullet2 w/ 16db > panel. >>>>> >>>>> ---- ---- ---- ---- >>>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection > UP >>>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >>>>> >>>>> On 4/21/2010 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>> Does Tranzeo work with Ubnt or MT or StarOS in 5 or 10 mhz > channels? >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess 2.4 and 5ghz are different compatibility wise as it's come > to >>>>> light >>>>>> that StarOS and MT work together in 5ghz but not 2.4. >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> >>>>>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>>>> continue >>>>>> that counts." >>>>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Robert Andrews >>>>> <rob...@avantwireless.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Damian, >>>>>> Thank you for making this public. We know that MT and >>>>> Valemount >>>>>> have >>>>>> no love lost, and thanks to both Tranzeo and UBNT for working with >>>>> both >>>>>> of them. Your competitive spirit made this business thrive > against >>>>>> proprietary interests... We wish that StarOS and MT would have >>>>>> cooperated in this to make it so we didn't have to choose one or > the >>>>>> other. We would have both in our network for each of their > particular >>>>>> advantages if they had.... Our testing showed ST did better on >>>>>> customer throughput and MT did better as real routers... >>>>>> >>>>>> Tranzeo and UBNT did best as customer equipment with Tranzeo doing >>>>>> better in marginal conditions and UBNT doing better in price... > So >>>>> we >>>>>> have both. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Robert >>>>>> >>>>>> On 04/21/2010 10:22 AM, Damian Wallace wrote: >>>>>>>>> Insert Flame here ^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> State Secret. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The beacons from one are in a different format than the other. > It >>>>> has to >>>>>>>>> fixed in the code by one or the other, preferably both. An SA, >>>>> unless >>>>>>>>> it's a high end lab grade one, won't show the difference. >>>>> Since 5 >>>>>>>>> MHz was a lucky accident on Atheros' part, they never > documented >>>>> how to >>>>>>>>> use it fully so different vendors made reasonable, but > different, >>>>>>>>> choices about how to modify their drivers to use it. Result is >>>>> staring >>>>>>>>> Matt in the face with an evil grin. It can be fixed, in code >>>>> though. >>>>>>>>> After all, Tranzeo and other brands can connect to both. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Damian >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of D. > Ryan >>>>> Spott >>>>>>>>> Sent: April-21-10 10:09 AM >>>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>>>>>>>> Cc: Mikrotik discussions >>>>>>>>> Subject: [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik/StarOS >>>>> 10mhz/5mhz >>>>>>>>> channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What are the center frequencies reported by the staros and mtik >>>>> boxes >>>>>>>>> when you go to 10mhz channels? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do you have a spectrum analyzer? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ryan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists >>>>>>>>> <li...@manageisp.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Did some more testing on this today. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 5ghz 10mhz and 5mhz channels seem to work fine, with Mikrotik > as a >>>>>>>>>> client to a StarOS AP. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2.4ghz 10mhz and 5mhz channels do not work at all with > Mikrotik as >>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> client to a StarOS AP. I did verify that the 20mhz channel >>>>>>>>>> settings worked fine. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This was using Mikrotik R52 cards on both sides, Hardware > Retries >>>>>>>>>> set to 15 and tested under Mikrotik 2.9.48 and 3.25. StarOS > is >>>>>>>>>> version 1.3.23b. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ideas? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>>>>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2010 7:18 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> What specifically is the problem? They won't connect on > 5/10MHz >>>>> on a >>>>>>>>>>> StarOS AP? Is the StarOS AP an Atheros based AP? Have you > tried >>>>>>>>>>> setting Hardware Retries to 15 under advanced wireless > settings >>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> Tik? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Chuck Hogg >>>>>>>>>>> Shelby Broadband >>>>>>>>>>> 502-722-9292 >>>>>>>>>>> ch...@shelbybb.com >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.shelbybb.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of > Matt >>>>>>>>>>> Larsen - >>>>>>>>>>> Lists >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:13 AM >>>>>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik/StarOS 10mhz/5mhz channel >>>>> compatibility >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I realize that I asked this question a few months ago, but >>>>> thought >>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>> I would ask again to see if anyone knows whether there have > been >>>>>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>>>>> in new versions of Mikrotik that would fix the compatibility > with >>>>>>>>>>> StarOS >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 10mhz/5mhz APs? I have a pile of MT units that are no good > to >>>>> me >>>>>>>>>>> unless they work with StarOS APs. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>>>>>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to >>>>> Mikrotik >>>>>>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to >>>>> Mikrotik >>>>>>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to >>>>> Mikrotik >>>>>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to > Mikrotik >>>>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to > Mikrotik >>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>> >>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>> >>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>>>> URL: >>>>> < >>> > http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100421/f41b2 >>>>> af2/attachment.html< >>> > http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100421/f41b2% > 0Aaf2/attachment.html >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>> >>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to > Mikrotik >>>>> RouterOS >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>> >>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>> RouterOS >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>> >>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>> RouterOS >>>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: < >>> > http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100421/951465 > d3/attachment.html >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>> >>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>> RouterOS >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>> RouterOS >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: > <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100421/d648a > cb1/attachment.html> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik > RouterOS > _______________________________________________ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik > RouterOS > _______________________________________________ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - 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