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-----Original Message----- From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: April-23-10 5:54 PM To: Mikrotik discussions Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Was 5 Mhz, now WPA TKIP What are you trying to say conehead ? ;) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Damian Wallace" <dwall...@tranzeo.com> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:26:53 -0700 >Wiki's and forums are for companies too cheap to have real tech support >:-( > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com >[mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce >Sent: April-23-10 6:03 AM >To: Mikrotik discussions >Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Was 5 Mhz, now WPA TKIP > >No doubt, I miss the Tranzeo list on Part-15.org as well. No offense >meant to Tranzeo, but their wiki or whatever they have is very sad. > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: Chris Gotstein <ch...@uplogon.com> >Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com> >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:27:12 -0500 > >>Is the list active? I'm pretty sure i'm subscribed to it. I miss the >>tranzeo list from Part-15. >> >>---- ---- ---- ---- >>Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >> >>On 4/21/2010 2:25 PM, D. Ryan Spott wrote: >>> There are new Tranzeo lists to complain on at wispa. >>> >>> ;P >>> >>> ryan >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:42 AM, "Damian Wallace" <dwall...@tranzeo.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Point taken. We are working on it. >>>> >>>> Back to MT issues. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com >>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris >>>> Gotstein >>>> Sent: April-21-10 11:16 AM >>>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: Mikrotik/StarOS >>>> 10mhz/5mhz channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam >>>> >>>> Running MT APs with XR2 cards. No problems connecting Tranzeo >CPQ/SL2 >>>> or UBNT radios when using a 10mhz channel. >>>> >>>> I do agree on how well we like our Tranzeo radios. I just wish they >>>> could come down on the price of the CPQ-19f radio. We can get a >>>> bullet2HP w/ 19db panel for a lot less. The price on the >>>> CPQ-15f/SL2-15f is perfect and competitive with a Bullet2 w/ 16db >panel. >>>> >>>> ---- ---- ---- ---- >>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >>>> >>>> On 4/21/2010 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>> Does Tranzeo work with Ubnt or MT or StarOS in 5 or 10 mhz >channels? >>>>> >>>>> I guess 2.4 and 5ghz are different compatibility wise as it's come >to >>>> light >>>>> that StarOS and MT work together in 5ghz but not 2.4. >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>>> continue >>>>> that counts." >>>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Robert Andrews >>>> <rob...@avantwireless.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Damian, >>>>> Thank you for making this public. We know that MT and >>>> Valemount >>>>> have >>>>> no love lost, and thanks to both Tranzeo and UBNT for working with >>>> both >>>>> of them. Your competitive spirit made this business thrive >against >>>>> proprietary interests... We wish that StarOS and MT would have >>>>> cooperated in this to make it so we didn't have to choose one or >the >>>>> other. We would have both in our network for each of their >particular >>>>> advantages if they had.... Our testing showed ST did better on >>>>> customer throughput and MT did better as real routers... >>>>> >>>>> Tranzeo and UBNT did best as customer equipment with Tranzeo doing >>>>> better in marginal conditions and UBNT doing better in price... >So >>>> we >>>>> have both. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Robert >>>>> >>>>> On 04/21/2010 10:22 AM, Damian Wallace wrote: >>>>>>>> Insert Flame here ^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> State Secret. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The beacons from one are in a different format than the other. >It >>>> has to >>>>>>>> fixed in the code by one or the other, preferably both. An SA, >>>> unless >>>>>>>> it's a high end lab grade one, won't show the difference. >>>> Since 5 >>>>>>>> MHz was a lucky accident on Atheros' part, they never documented >>>> how to >>>>>>>> use it fully so different vendors made reasonable, but >different, >>>>>>>> choices about how to modify their drivers to use it. Result is >>>> staring >>>>>>>> Matt in the face with an evil grin. It can be fixed, in code >>>> though. >>>>>>>> After all, Tranzeo and other brands can connect to both. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Damian >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of D. >Ryan >>>> Spott >>>>>>>> Sent: April-21-10 10:09 AM >>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>>>>>>> Cc: Mikrotik discussions >>>>>>>> Subject: [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik/StarOS >>>> 10mhz/5mhz >>>>>>>> channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What are the center frequencies reported by the staros and mtik >>>> boxes >>>>>>>> when you go to 10mhz channels? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you have a spectrum analyzer? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ryan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists >>>>>>>> <li...@manageisp.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Did some more testing on this today. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 5ghz 10mhz and 5mhz channels seem to work fine, with Mikrotik >as a >>>>>>>>> client to a StarOS AP. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2.4ghz 10mhz and 5mhz channels do not work at all with Mikrotik >as >>>> a >>>>>>>>> client to a StarOS AP. I did verify that the 20mhz channel >>>>>>>>> settings worked fine. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This was using Mikrotik R52 cards on both sides, Hardware >Retries >>>>>>>>> set to 15 and tested under Mikrotik 2.9.48 and 3.25. StarOS >is >>>>>>>>> version 1.3.23b. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ideas? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>>>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2010 7:18 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: >>>>>>>>>> What specifically is the problem? They won't connect on >5/10MHz >>>> on a >>>>>>>>>> StarOS AP? Is the StarOS AP an Atheros based AP? Have you >tried >>>>>>>>>> setting Hardware Retries to 15 under advanced wireless >settings >>>> on >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> Tik? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Chuck Hogg >>>>>>>>>> Shelby Broadband >>>>>>>>>> 502-722-9292 >>>>>>>>>> ch...@shelbybb.com >>>>>>>>>> http://www.shelbybb.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of >Matt >>>>>>>>>> Larsen - >>>>>>>>>> Lists >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:13 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik/StarOS 10mhz/5mhz channel >>>> compatibility >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I realize that I asked this question a few months ago, but >>>> thought >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> I would ask again to see if anyone knows whether there have >been >>>>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>>>> in new versions of Mikrotik that would fix the compatibility >with >>>>>>>>>> StarOS >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 10mhz/5mhz APs? I have a pile of MT units that are no good >to >>>> me >>>>>>>>>> unless they work with StarOS APs. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>>>>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to >>>> Mikrotik >>>>>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to >>>> Mikrotik >>>>>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to >>>> Mikrotik >>>>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to >Mikrotik >>>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to >Mikrotik >>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>> >>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>> RouterOS >>>>>> >>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> URL: >>>> ><http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100421/f41b 2 >>>> af2/attachment.html> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>> >>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>> RouterOS >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>> >>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>> RouterOS >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>> >>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>> RouterOS >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>> RouterOS >>_______________________________________________ >>Mikrotik mailing list >>Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >>Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >RouterOS >> > > > > > >________________________________________________________________ >Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Mikrotik mailing list >Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > >Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >RouterOS >_______________________________________________ >Mikrotik mailing list >Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > >Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net _______________________________________________ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS _______________________________________________ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
