Just one note,

the underlying mingw-w64 C99 math routines could rely on the supplied math
routines from the universal crt IMHO. Is this an foreseeable option for the
future?

2015-05-19 10:21 GMT+02:00 Ruben Van Boxem <vanboxem.ru...@gmail.com>:

> Now without zip...
>
> 015-05-19 10:17 GMT+02:00 Ruben Van Boxem <vanboxem.ru...@gmail.com>:
>
>> 2015-05-19 10:03 GMT+02:00 LRN <lrn1...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> On 19.05.2015 10:09, Ruben Van Boxem wrote:
>>> > Hi guys,
>>> >
>>> > There has recently (as in, yesterday) been a new flicker of activity
>>> in the
>>> > mingw-python camp.
>>> > For a long time, GCC on Windows was not a usable option for Python
>>> without
>>> > some pretty big workarounds and hacks to get everything working. The
>>> > biggest issue being that you cannot simply build Python extensions with
>>> > MinGW(-w64). For that issue, and the flicker of activity, see this bug
>>> > report:
>>> > http://bugs.python.org/issue4709
>>> >
>>> > Now, it seems that VS2015 is coming with a new "Universal CRT", which
>>> will
>>> > be what the new Python version supports. Paule Moore, a new Python
>>> > contributor, is prepared to help significantly as I understand it, but
>>> he
>>> > deems support for the new CRT somewhat of a requirement to get
>>> streamlined
>>> > support for the GCC/Windows/Python combination. What are the chances of
>>> > this being added to MinGW-w64 "soon"?
>>>
>>> IANAL, but UCRT might also improve the licensing situation, where GPLv2
>>> programs can't legally link to anything other than msvcrt.dll that comes
>>> with the OS; if UCRT is, legally, an OS component (and from the way MS
>>> describes it, that seems to be the case), GPLv3 (and, hopefully, GPLv2)
>>> programs will be able to use it. That could serve as an extra motivation
>>> for UCRT support in MinGW-w64.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, that seems to be indeed the case, plus it will be available on older
>> OS versions through Windows update:
>>
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2015/03/03/introducing-the-universal-crt.aspx
>>
>> It would be awesome to be able to "update" the CRT underlying MinGW-w64.
>> As a start, attached are the def files for the current Windows 10 ucrtbase
>> DLLs (along with msvcrt, because why not) generated by gendef.
>>
>> I think it's time to create a new GCC target maybe... How about
>> "{i686,x86_64}-pc-windows", and it links to the ucrtbase libraries, which
>> will be unversioned, serviced in place (much like glibc, as I understand
>> it). Maybe we can use native threading primitives in one go for C++11 for
>> the new target!
>>
>> /ImustbeonsomethingI'llgotakeawalknow
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ruben
>>
>>
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