On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 02:37:09PM -0500, Damian Wiest wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 08:39:37PM -0600, Breen Ouellette wrote:
> > Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
> > >>a) Intel doesn't own the technology, but licensed it from another 
> > >>   vendor.  The licensing terms don't allow Intel to release full 
> > >>   details.
> > >>
> > >>b) Intel has agreements with other customers/vendors to not release 
> > >>   information about a particular piece of hardware.
> > >>
> > >>c) Intel doesn't feel that it's worth the cost to provide information
> > >>   for driver developers.
> > >>    
> > >
> > >d) There are so many patents issued for obvious techniques used in
> > >   computer peripheral chips that releasing documentation might tempt
> > >   an ethically challenged company to sue them for royalties.
> > >
> > >Intel has been on record as stating that patent issues are now a
> > >significant problem for them.
> > >
> > >-wolfgang
> > >  
> > 
> > That's just their way of saying that AMD is patenting technology that 
> > Intel has to licence, and that is just so very terrible for them. I 
> > mean, shame on AMD for taking the shiny toy away from Intel.  :)
> > 
> > And seriously, is Intel insinuating that they are using patented 
> > technology without licencing it? That seems rather bogus to me. 
> > Ignorance of breaking the law does not waive their liability under the 
> > law, and if they get caught in this kind of lie then I hope the legal 
> > system stomps all over them. It would serve them right. If Intel doesn't 
> > like the patent system, then they can lobby against it. But they are 
> > just a hair's width shy of admitting guilt if they actually make 
> > arguments like the one attributed above.
> > 
> > Breeno
> > 
> > PS - before I get accused of being a 'commie' in this latest round of 
> > discussions regarding bad corporate behaviour, I'd just like to say that 
> > it was my understanding that believing the law should not be broken is 
> > not how you define a communist.
> 
> Intel may just be worried that there _might_ be a problem they don't 
> know about and are trying to protect themselves.  I imagine that there 
> are plenty of opportunities for someone to either willfully or 
> accidentally introduce patented technologies, for which Intel does not 
> hold a license, into their commercial products.  Rather than releasing
> information and potentially having to deal with an intellectual property 
> issue, Intel just doesn't release the information.
> 

WTF! Why are you trying to protect a company that has more patents than
employees (okey I did not count them).
Do you think that any company will succeed with a patent claim against
Intel? The best thing they will get is a counter claim.
If the company is small it's over -- David against Goliath does not work
in the US law system. For larger companies the normal outcome is a mutual
licensing of each others patents (or part of them).

So not releasing docu because of patents is a straw-man argument.
Especially since a docu for writing a driver just needs to describe the
basic functionality of the card. The DMA engine and the register set and
btw. networking chipsets (wireless or not) are not rocket science.

-- 
:wq Claudio

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