* ropers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-12 01:17:32]:

*snip*

> 
> In addition, it is *considerably harder* to install unfree software on
> OpenBSD than on gNewSense. This eg. is what installing Skype entails:
> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.os.bsd.india/352
> On gNewSense, it is *much* easier to install Skype. Just add an unfree
> repository to /etc/apt/sources.list and type a one-line command to
> install. I don't know for sure, but I suspect that gNewSense will not
> warn a user who does that that they are installing unfree software, so
> why expect more from OpenBSD?
> 

I agree,

In the end, the only way to prevent users from running non GPL
software is to basically only distribute binaries for say, atleast
the kernel, and only allow cryptographically hashed binaries to
run, or something of that sort.  That would not stand up long, you
could say, offline replace the kernel, or hell, just fork the
distribution, or any other myriad of ways.

The point is that is very difficult to force people to behave in
certain ways, such as only using GPL software.  However, if they
_want_ to only use GPL software, then that's what they will do.
You _can_ run OpenBSD without non GPL, non BSD licensed software.
That's how it ships, (save for firmware which we have the rigths
to distribute.) Just as you can also run it with something not open
and not free.  Attempts to force users to do otherwise would be
futile.  This is the exact same case with the 100% FSF-approved
linux distributions Stallman suggested.  People do not run non free
software on these distributions.  It's not because they can't, it's
because they don't want to.

An aside: The GPL does its job, but only if people put that license
on their software.  So remember--people's wills, not the license.

-- 
Travers Buda

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