On Dec 15, 2007 1:26 AM, Chris Zakelj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> bofh wrote:
> > On Dec 14, 2007 7:11 PM, Chris Zakelj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> How, pray tell, would purchasing and using this software reduce my
> >> freedom, given that not only does it allow me to make money doing
> >> something I find fun, but also enjoy summer weekends in the sun
> >> watchings kids have fun, too?
> >>
> > Come now, there are serious questions about whether Richards line in
> > the sand is in the correct place, but this question is silly.  He's
> > not talking about your personal freedom, he's talking about end user's
> > freedom.  GPL is about the end user's freedom.  BSD is about the
> > developer's freedom.  The two does not have to meet.
> >
> > This is why there's such a big deal over OOXML right now.
> No, this is exactly on point.  As I understand his view, Richard seems
> to think that any software licensed under a schema that doesn't meet his
> definition of "free" is bad/unethical/whatever, and for an OS to support
> said software, even if only by reference, is not only also bad, but also
> diminishes my own freedom.  I fail to see how using a software package
> (remember, *I* would be the end user here), proprietary and
> license-restricted though it may be, somehow causes a loss in my
> freedom.  I am free to (not) use/purchase such software as I see fit,

Again - this discussion is not about your personal freedom.  Stop
trying to change the discussion.  This is about licensing and what you
can, and cannot do with the source code.  The current discussion is
actually pretty important, and muddying up the waters like this is not
useful.


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