On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:25:40 -0500, "bofh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Dec 15, 2007 1:26 AM, Chris Zakelj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > bofh wrote: > > > On Dec 14, 2007 7:11 PM, Chris Zakelj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> How, pray tell, would purchasing and using this software reduce my > > >> freedom, given that not only does it allow me to make money doing > > >> something I find fun, but also enjoy summer weekends in the sun > > >> watchings kids have fun, too? > > >> > > > Come now, there are serious questions about whether Richards line in > > > the sand is in the correct place, but this question is silly. He's > > > not talking about your personal freedom, he's talking about end user's > > > freedom. GPL is about the end user's freedom. BSD is about the > > > developer's freedom. The two does not have to meet. > > > > > > This is why there's such a big deal over OOXML right now. > > No, this is exactly on point. As I understand his view, Richard seems > > to think that any software licensed under a schema that doesn't meet his > > definition of "free" is bad/unethical/whatever, and for an OS to support > > said software, even if only by reference, is not only also bad, but also > > diminishes my own freedom. I fail to see how using a software package > > (remember, *I* would be the end user here), proprietary and > > license-restricted though it may be, somehow causes a loss in my > > freedom. I am free to (not) use/purchase such software as I see fit, > > Again - this discussion is not about your personal freedom. Stop > trying to change the discussion. This is about licensing and what you > can, and cannot do with the source code. The current discussion is > actually pretty important, and muddying up the waters like this is not > useful.
You are wrong. This thread *is* about personal freedom. It started with RMS's attack on OBSD's ports system giving references to un-free software. RMS feels this is bad and the rest of us disagree because we feel it restricts our personal freedom. This thread got sidetracked by a stupid licensing issue.
